General DC Comics Discussion Thread

[LordTracer]

Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow (2021/2022) #7

Not a Post-Crisis comic

Ewwwwww

 

[Lemongifted101]

Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow (2021/2022) #7

Wait Rebirth Harald then possibly 4A ?
still affect PoC one or not ?

 

[Lemongifted101]

Wait can someone calc
Mothership of Brainiac that
Superman and Martian push
in New52 as its far larger
and made from metals(so its far heavier than Earth (class Y) its
mean anyone compared to him
should upgrade to Pre Stellar ?
(Even give or take Jupiter size)

 

[Antvasima]

What do you think about this potential upgrade of the peaks of the Superman family and the characters that scale to them to 4-A?

https://vsbattles.com/threads/general-dc-comics-discussion-thread.139601/post-5179928

The references still aren't placed :\

Yeah, it need references.

@AndrewBennet

Are you willing to provide them please?

 

[Antvasima]

Oh yeah, I forgot to post this, but we have a 8-C calc for Joker that would upgrade the Post Crisis tiers. This doesn't clash with the 9-A calcs as well as the other 8-C calcs that belong to higher level characters. I detail more at the bottom of the blog

Joker survives a bomb - DC (Post-Crisis)

vsbattles.fandom.com

Some more 8-C calcs- https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan/Some_DC_Street_Level_Calcs

Since we have 5+ 8-C Post-Crisis calcs, I think we have enough for an upgrade.

That seems fine to me at least, if all of them have been accepted.

 

[Transcending]

That seems fine to me at least, if all of them have been accepted.

I am discussing the calcs I posted with KLOL atm. I will update you

 

[Antvasima]

Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow (2021/2022) #7

All of the scans are from the same issue?

Not a Post-Crisis comic

Hmm, so only the Post-Rebirth characters would scale to 4-A then?

 

[Antvasima]

I am discussing the calcs I posted with KLOL atm. I will update you

Thank you for helping out.

 

[Antvasima]

I think Lex Luthor intel should be fine
at Supergenius instead possibly one

Supergenius (He is the world smartest
human above likes Bruce Wayne Ted Kord Ray Palmer (Who created particles that broken Square tube laws) and Michael Holt (Who created times sphere). created device that rip apart
existence(Idk that is body mind soul
or even concept as Darkseid tank it
casually). Outhack Brainiac (despite took a month of prep IIRC)
keen businessman (made fortune from a tiny life insurance to Earth top3 conglomerate. Cure an incurable one and gave back coz he want lol. Nearly
compared to Brainiac (even outsmart him sometimes). He appeared far stupider than normally coz he obsessed to destroy Superman
so he is single minded.

Can you clarify which feats he has that actually reach Supergenius levels please?

You can read our Intelligence page for clarifications.

 

[Vondoom]

All of the scans are from the same issue?

Yeah

It would be surprising if he didn't
Almost every debate this guy has he starts getting unreasonably toxic for literally no reason
When told to chill he gets even MORE toxic and claims that its just his way of debating

I was like that 3 years ago, it takes time...though I won't say I've 100% changed.

Wait Rebirth Harald then possibly 4A ?
still affect PoC one or not ?

If the feat happened in post crisis I would scale to post rebirth but this is direct from rebirth so nop.

Hmm, so only the Post-Rebirth characters would scale to 4-A then?

Yeah

 

[Lemongifted101]

Yeah

I was like that 3 years ago, it takes time...though I won't say I've 100% changed.

If the feat happened in post crisis I would scale to post rebirth but this is direct from rebirth so nop.

Yeah

Ehhh you plan to calced this 4A feats
???

 

[Lemongifted101]

Can you clarify which feats he has that actually reach Supergenius levels please?

You can read our Intelligence page for clarifications

His profile stated he made a device
that rip apart existance so he can made his technologies affect even souls (Even concept ?) that as impressive as you destroy time-space but even that I don't be sure he
was solid Supergenius.
His intelligence flactuated like you said.(When long times ago) at peak
even Brainiac was trouble to deal him
and other time he was look stupid
so
varies from At least extraor genius to
Supergenius better suit him best.

*Please update Brainiac (new52)
intel he once created the ship that
can even penetrated source wall
IIRC.* his intel sector is nothing rather than much smarter than Lex who only
At least extraor genius

 

[Antvasima]

We preferably need some scans and references for his greatest feats.

 

[Lemongifted101]

Brainiac even used his technologies to saw a 5-D realm

 

[Antvasima]

Okay, but we are talking about Lex Luthor just not measuring up to Brainiac's degree of feats as far as I am aware.

 

[Transcending]

Isn't Brainiac smarter than Lex

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/AAhckUluPwjgjWIhJE0f2HxUkRL5_mabyzPbkfLW65Cw_QuljA6U953ADCmMYX_wMJqAPZgstWP2y6N3ITI1ZBEqUxohKY2Bfo1Mao8Ptx-E5g6Y0lEUoPr0U314DPrhG2aqQ4ajnQ=s0

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/NjrnMNQbYX1mQflMXMfF9pK7_-wQdrgd0Ylmj-dL8dZewAKpPpNLXiZmwmAhcRPLcvQysadHj6OmYSQnUusEbDSgKoexLuJGgAzkmE-o1LkMLBv6rif7T6xUugB1qwvc2WHH5RdSyw=s0

 

[Antvasima]

He usually definitely seems to be, yes.

 

[Lemongifted101]

His ship is greatly dwarf the earth.

 

[Antvasima]

Yes, but that is obviously not a Supergenius feat. Also, Brainiac already has Supergenius level intelligence listed.

 

[Lemongifted101]

Isn't Brainiac smarter than Lex

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/AAhckUluPwjgjWIhJE0f2HxUkRL5_mabyzPbkfLW65Cw_QuljA6U953ADCmMYX_wMJqAPZgstWP2y6N3ITI1ZBEqUxohKY2Bfo1Mao8Ptx-E5g6Y0lEUoPr0U314DPrhG2aqQ4ajnQ=s0

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/NjrnMNQbYX1mQflMXMfF9pK7_-wQdrgd0Ylmj-dL8dZewAKpPpNLXiZmwmAhcRPLcvQysadHj6OmYSQnUusEbDSgKoexLuJGgAzkmE-o1LkMLBv6rif7T6xUugB1qwvc2WHH5RdSyw=s0

Hmmmmm yes actually.
I would tried to added his intelligence
sector more and more (even not to upgraded him). I used to prefer him over Brainiac now I switched.

 

[Transcending]

Where would Batman Who Laughs beating Mar Novu scale

 

[Antvasima]

What do you mean?

 

[Lemongifted101]

His ship is greatly dwarf the earth.

Ehhh Ant can you give this to someone
to calc I think this can upgrade N52 Supes and his peers to pre stellar LS.

Yes, but that is obviously not a Supergenius feat. Also, Brainiac already has Supergenius level intelligence listed.

Wow really ? whats about those I really like him coz his intelligence alone.

Where would Batman Who Laughs beat

2C - 2A with prep ?
if solely physical beat cosmic one
is outlier for sure.

 

[Transcending]

 

[Transcending]

2C - 2A with prep ?
if solely physical beat cosmic one
is outlier for sure.

He used prep+machines and stuff like that

 

[Lemongifted101]

He used prep+machines and stuff like that

It isn't upgrade him to that tier

2C likely 2A with prep ?

 

[Antvasima]

Well, being able to destroy the DC multiverse via scientific know-how seems like a Supergenius level feat, but is it an outlier or a more consistent display?

 

[Lemongifted101]

Well, being able to destroy the DC multiverse via scientific know-how seems like a Supergenius level feat, but is it an outlier or a more consistent display?

PIS ???
whats about another feats that same
scale as this level or just plot or outlier ?

 

[Transcending]

It isn't upgrade him to that tier

2C likely 2A with prep ?

Yeah

Well, being able to destroy the DC multiverse via scientific know-how seems like a Supergenius level feat, but is it an outlier or a more consistent display?

I don't think we can dismiss it as an Outlier due to the fact that BWL has barely any feats. His other feats also don't contradict this showing, and in the stories, statements like "Batman Wins", "BWL can adapt to every threat", etc were continuously given. BWL also succeeded in manipulating Perpetua to replace Luthor with him, and then outsmarted her by killing her as TDK.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I suppose that he can probably get a "Likely Supergenius" rating then.

 

[Transcending]

Okay. I suppose that he can probably get a "Likely Supergenius" rating then.

Yeah I am good with that

 

[Antvasima]

Would you be willing to apply it along with proper justifications?

 

[Transcending]

Would you be willing to apply it along with proper justifications?

What do you recommend? 'Managed to beat the Monitor with prep time'?

 

[Recap_]

What do you recommend? 'Managed to beat the Monitor with prep time'?

It's not that at then the Monitor was reborn splintered into many aspect, and make him down to Tier 4-B?

 

[Transcending]

Mar Novu was fully reformed when BWL beat him

 

[Recap_]

Ok

 

[Vondoom]

Ehhh you plan to calced this 4A feats
???

Ask Antvasima

 

[Lemongifted101]

@Antvasima
can you calced those feat(s)
4A pls or ask someone to do

I wait this for 6 years to accomplish
lol

 

[Firestorm808]

What do you think about this potential upgrade of the peaks of the Superman family and the characters that scale to them to 4-A?

I am confused as to the full context behind this comic issue. What happened in the story to make this proposal?

 

[Transcending]

Okay. I suppose that he can probably get a "Likely Supergenius" rating then.

For the justification do we also add him manipulating and outsmarting Perpetua?