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So now conceptual attacks mean conceptual erasure?
Also, again, there was no instance of a God getting hit by a conceptual attack, getting erased and coming back.
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So now conceptual attacks mean conceptual erasure?
Also, again, there was no instance of a God getting hit by a conceptual attack, getting erased and coming back.
Meanie...
it's not because Ghost are invisible and intangible that they're intangible because they're invisible,Yes, similar to how Ghosts are invisible and intangible.
if we take the definition, invisibility is just the power to "render oneself unseen to the naked eye", notably not interacting with light normally, but such an interaction does not mean that you are intangible.Invisibility is the power to render oneself unseen to the naked eye
As we can see intangibility is by definition not the same at all, because you can be invisible without being able to pass through objects.Intangibility is the ability to pass through things physically.
What is meant by "conceptual attacks"? •Attacks based on conceptual manipulation?So now conceptual attacks mean conceptual erasure?
Idk, there was never an instance of "concept being destroyed". Like for example UEG unleashed an attack imbued with the concept of "ignoring defense" against a barrier that was imbued with the concept of "absolute defense".What is meant by "conceptual attacks"? •Attacks based on conceptual manipulation?
•Attacks that can destroy concepts?
•Or both. Attacks that can destroy concepts based on conceptual manipulation?
For the first one, definitely not.
For the second or third, yes if complete destruction is involved or strongly implied, otherwise no.
Killed physically still means their soul also got killed, this is why i brought up Malna statement of soul is consciousness and memories in the avatar,
Low-Godly: The ability to regenerate from the complete physical destruction of the user's body, instead restoring it from their disembodied consciousness, whether that be their soul, mind, some other non-physical aspect of themself, esoteric or metaphysical energy, or something else.
Killing or erasing things physically does not mean that you are capable of erasing things like soul, so logically it's not because you kill physically someone that you also kill his soul.This ability's destructive power is not absolute, and one should not assume that it can erase the soul by default.
There's no statement in ID that everything that are invisible are also intangible, but it's pretty consistent in the verse that invisible things are also intangible.And?
The do not automatically mean the same thing. You would need scans showing that this is a constant for this verse in particular. If you have scans saying that everything invisible are also intangible, then send that.
All I needed to hear.There's no statement in ID that everything that are invisible are also intangible
All abstract things are concepts.You're being in bad faith here and it's becoming irritating. Something abstract isn't necessarily a concept. If you're telling me that you falling in love = You getting the concept of love inside you is legitimate, there is a problem.
He kills anything that put him in danger, this means if Spiritual deities try to attack him, he will kill it, even if he can't see them.Sure, but not seeing something doesn't mean it's invisible or intangible or abstract. He literally state that surprise attack don't work on him. Surprise attack meaning he couldn't see it coming. Or are you going to tell me that the surprise attack was intangible too?
No, momentum is incorporeal, not abstract. The effect of gravity exist within reality, like our planet's core creating gravity for all of us.
This proves to us that Luu can manipulate a God soul. Which is backed up by her statement of her can manipulate ANY SOULS.And what's that suppose to prove? Mitsuki could bring them back by simply rewinding time, she could do the same.
Gorbagion killed Luu, just means his abilities are Conceptual.Because Gorbagion power is becoming stronger without limit and erasing stuff. He doesn't have "conceptual abilities" or whatever. He's really just a strong dude and yet, Luu was killed by him.
Luu reviving Alexia soul back to life after it got erased, it means she's interacting and manipulating her soul.Never stated she would interact with her soul. Simply rewinding time would do the trick, just like Mitsuki did with the whole world.
Why is it so hard to understand? If Mokomoko in spiritual form/soul got erased by that random God, she will come back to life after some time went by.She's stated by a more powerful God to be a God herself. And again, even if you were to go that way, it wouldn't give anything since while her "form" would disappear/die, the world would keep the information (soul/memories) of her until she comes back.
Their soul got erased, but then the souls will come back to life in Sea of Darkness and after some time went by, they will enter the physical world.Yeah, for humans. I've bring you the explanation that Divine Spirit, Gods and Youkai can come back thanks to their soul. One isn't exclusive to the other.
Never said that souls are physical. They are interaction and erasing the soul in their physical body.So now the soul is physical? Damn
The Divine core is holding the consciousness and memories/soul of the gods human and animal avatars.Give me a scan. I know there are none, but give me one. The divine core was never explained and just acted as some sort of things that can kill gods when destroyed, that's it.
Never said Soul is physical.As regeneration's page says, soul is not physical :
Existence Erasure page also state the same thing :
Killing or erasing things physically does not mean that you are capable of erasing things like soul, so logically it's not because you kill physically someone that you also kill his soul.
And from what i know, this mecanic does not exist in instant death either.
No.All abstract things are concepts.
There isn't a problem, because concept of love is what you wrote in this statement
We don't know. It could be the case, it could not, we don't know.He kills anything that put him in danger, this means if Spiritual deities try to attack him, he will kill it, even if he can't see them.
The scan never stated she could manipulate "any" souls. Furthermore, like I told you, merely rewinding time is enough to make a God come back. She doesn't need to interact with another God's soul.This proves to us that Luu can manipulate a God soul. Which is backed up by her statement of her can manipulate ANY SOULS.
You didn't prove anything. Send me A SCAN THAT EXPLAIN VERBATIM THAT A GOD CAN INTERACT WITH A GOD'S SOUL. If you can't, stop with this.Also debunked your previous comment about Gods can only manipulate HUMAN SOULS and that they can't erased their GODS souls.
Yeah, and?Mitsuki who's a HUMAN that got nigh omnipotent power from GODDESSES, can manipulate and revive both GODS and Humans by rewind time.
Yeah, via recreating a body with his brain information/memories. No mention of soul.UEG said that she could revive Touichiro a god if she wanted.
1 - It never actually happenMokomoko a low level god in spiritual form can die and get erase to a random God.
Sure, enjoy your headcanon.Gorbagion killed Luu, just means his abilities are Conceptual.
1 - She never does itLuu reviving Alexia soul back to life after it got erased, it means she's interacting and manipulating her soul.
Let's point out the problem.Why is it so hard to understand? If Mokomoko in spiritual form/soul got erased by that random God, she will come back to life after some time went by.
Even if everything you stated was right, it wouldn't even be High-Godly, it would be Mid-Godly resurrection (over time) at best, and I'm being very lenient here.This is still High Godly regen.
No proof of their soul getting erased. Send me a scan saying VERBATIM that their soul gets erased.Their soul got erased, but then the souls will come back to life in Sea of Darkness and after some time went by, they will enter the physical world.
Never said that souls are physical. They are interaction and erasing the soul in their physical body.
Killed physically still means their soul also got killed
No scan? I see. The usual.The Divine core is holding the consciousness and memories/soul of the gods human and animal avatars.
It is.
We know because spiritual deities are in ID verse and he said he can kill things he can't see.We don't know. It could be the case, it could not, we don't know.
The fact that I shown proof that momentum is an abstract concept, but you still doesn't want to accept it.The fact you did a Imgur album and yet couldn't realize that momentum is very much a physical phenomenon is beyond me.
I already gave you the scan that Luu said she can manipulate ANY SOULS, when she was talking to Hanakawa.The scan never stated she could manipulate "any" souls. Furthermore, like I told you, merely rewinding time is enough to make a God come back. She doesn't need to interact with another God's soul.
Consciousness and memories are soul. Malna a goddess literally said this.Yeah, via recreating a body with his brain information/memories. No mention of soul.
1. It never actually happen doesn't matter. It's a statement by a goddess, who's a reliable source.1 - It never actually happen
2 - I showed you a statement that Gods, Youkai and Divine Spirit can come back thanks to their soul.
Not headcannon when there is a statement that anyone in the SEA can have Instant death, Reflection, Time stop, Time reversal, Spatial severance, TotalSure, enjoy your headcanon
1. She never does it doesn't matter.1 - She never does it
2 - We don't know how she'll manage to make her come back
3 - It was never stated she would erase her soul.
The whole story is against you, yet you're stubborn.
If Mokomoko got erased, she will regen back to life in the Sea of Darkness, wait their for some time, then enter the physical world.Let's point out the problem.
First, it wouldn't even be a regeneration, since it would be a resurrection.
Secondly, there is again no proof that her soul gets erased. EVEN if that was the case, since the world keeps the information of Divine Spirit within itself, it wouldn't even be enough for Mid-Godly.
I already did. Mokomoko and other Gods in spiritual form (soul) get killed and erased, they will come back to eventually, but if they got killed by Yogiri, they will not come back to life.No proof of their soul getting erased. Send me a scan saying VERBATIM that their soul gets erased.