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Garou vs 666:Satan
- Thread starter Sir_Ovens
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Powering through a hole in the chest is a lot different than powering through your body's atoms and molecules being ionized by radiation.
If he uses clones that will lengthen the match and make him very likely to die via radiation.
The screaming is useful but Garou can just sense the waves and avoid them.
Hmm...
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Sure, but Garou can do the same thing with most of his stuff too?
If the battle gets prolonged Satan just dies of radiation lol.
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Also Radiation doesn't destroy atoms and such all in one go, so Satan should be able to slowly regenerate from it. It isn't a form of Deconstruction but rather causes damage to atoms over time.
azontr
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No, he can't.
None of Satan's shit is within the understanding of what Garou can copy. He comes from an entirely different dimension with different rules and things to comprehend, which Garou does not.
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Radiation on Garou's level definitely would rip apart atoms pretty quickly.
He's not regenerating from sub-atomic damage, wtf? His regen is High-Mid.
azontr
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Well, except all the shit Garou can already do on his own, Garou can't copy.
He can probably throw planets and manipulate gravity, but he can't make clones, or cause explosions within someone's body with clones, or destroy souls with sound, or absorb heat, or any of the other shit Satan can do which is blatantly supernatural.
He can probably throw planets and manipulate gravity, but he can't make clones, or cause explosions within someone's body with clones, or destroy souls with sound, or absorb heat, or any of the other shit Satan can do which is blatantly supernatural.
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What exactly does he have that's so complex?
Lugh_Tuathe_Dé
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Why would you assume the sound wouldn't follow the portal? Saitama got in the portal who, fast as him why wouldn't Diamond Sutra sound would get in the portal as well
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Oh, sure, yeah I don't think Garou can do that.
azontr
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I cannot tell if your being sarcastic or not.
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He would portal away before the sound waves even got close enough to catch him through the portal. And the portals close relatively instantly anyway.
Lugh_Tuathe_Dé
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So Garou can read mind now?
Lugh_Tuathe_Dé
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Bruh. The sound waves is instant that it hit MTFL+ why wouldn't it hit Garou before he can portal out and close it.
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Nah, I'm not Ziller, not going to wank Garou to Nirvana and back.
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You realize speed is equalized right? Wtf are you talking about bro?
Lugh_Tuathe_Dé
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Why would you equalize something that can't be equalized due to it's non similar nature.
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It would need to destroy his atoms (Radiation doesn't destroy atoms, they become ionized, I.E they become unstable.)
Garou doesn't deconstruct people Thanos style.
Actually any regeneration can regenerate from Matter hax destruction. Hence why regenerating a head or an arm after it's been destroyed on a sub-atomic level is only Mid to Mid-Low.
Regeneration covers your atoms and such being destroyed depending on the degree of said matter Manipulation. Garou isn't nuking all of his atoms just by standing there, and again it's damaging them, not outright destroying them.
Maybe don't put words into my mouth?
azontr
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Let's be completely, completely real here, some of Satan's shit Garou would get zero benefit from copying, even if he could.
Throwing planets at Satan or throwing him into celestial bodies isn't going to do shit unless it's a black hole. Planets and stars will poof against Satan's hairs. Completely useless for Garou. He can probably already pull planets and celestial bodies into the battlefield without copying Satan's shit.
The only stuff that Garou would benefit from copying is stuff that he cannot copy.
Throwing planets at Satan or throwing him into celestial bodies isn't going to do shit unless it's a black hole. Planets and stars will poof against Satan's hairs. Completely useless for Garou. He can probably already pull planets and celestial bodies into the battlefield without copying Satan's shit.
The only stuff that Garou would benefit from copying is stuff that he cannot copy.
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Indeed, it is damaging his atoms across his entire body. Pretty sure that's beyond what High-Mid covers.
Lugh_Tuathe_Dé
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You're misunderstanding the point the fight that happened they have the same speed. So it hit someone with the same speed. Why wouldn't it hit Garou?
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Because Garou can instantly teleport away before it hits him, hello?
azontr
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Eh, fair enough, but he'd have to actually learn it and can't just lol copy it since he can't understand how it works like he'd understand a natural phenomena or a martial arts technique.
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If Garou copies that the match is over instantly.
Imagine his radiation aura x quadrillions. GG.
azontr
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Let's say he can learn it, he needs to be directly taught. It isn't a Martial Arts technique that Garou can simply copy, nor is it within his understanding.
Satan or somebody who knows it would have to sit Garou down and be like "this is how it works, you do it like this specifically".
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Which in turn results in a process that's similar to melting.
Not really, the atoms and such are still there, but they're damaged and unstable. At best you can argue it would turn Satan into a puddle but that's obviously not the case since Garou never turned anyone into a puddle with his radiation.
You'd be better off arguing on behalf of Garou's Nuclear Fusion which can produce dumb amounts of heat that can vaporize Satan.
azontr
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Satan absorbs heat.
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I don't believe that High-Mid would be able to recover from all atoms being damaged, considering at that level of regeneration you presumably still need healthy, functioning cells to be able to regenerate.
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How much heat? Nuclear explosions are hundred million degrees, and gamma rays are billions.Satan absorbs heat.
azontr
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I mean, heat empowers him, I'd figure the more heat you throw into the mix the more it's gonna make him stronger regardless of temperature lol.
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Oh shit...
Nevermind then.
Though nuclear explosions and gamma rays would produce even worse radiation. Pretty sure a gamma ray burst would actually deconstruct you via radiation alone.
azontr
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I can agree that the actual radioactive waves from nuclear attacks and gamma ray bursts would royally **** Satan up, since he's just going to lol nope the heat itself.
But he can very well just spawn a quadrillion clones to take the attack for him, or fly out of the effective range. Garou's gamma ray bursts are not as big as actual gamma ray bursts, mind you, so he'd have to actively spam both or either of the attacks to catch Satan with them.
But he can very well just spawn a quadrillion clones to take the attack for him, or fly out of the effective range. Garou's gamma ray bursts are not as big as actual gamma ray bursts, mind you, so he'd have to actively spam both or either of the attacks to catch Satan with them.
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Said cells are still existent, they're just heavily damaged. As good as Garou's Radiation is he hasn't been shown to turn people into liquid Godzilla style.
Radiation doesn't annihilate or deconstruct matter like that.
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Eventually, Garou learns how to clone and the radiation he produces is multiplied by quadrillions.
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If all of the cells are damaged, then there are no healthy cells that can multiply and regenerate new mass. It doesn't really matter if it doesn't liquefy. The radiation is still going to **** up all of his cells and make regenerating impossible regardless.
High-Mid does not have the molecular/atomic regenerative capabilities to do so.
azontr
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He's not gonna learn the mechanism behind cloning lol, he needs to be taught directly. Satan only copied it because he did so from Mori, who knew the mechanism and was directly taught. He can't read Satan's mind to figure out the mechanism behind it.
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Has no one figured out cloning via "lol I understand" before? I thought it had since God of Highschool is one of those verses.
azontr
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No.
Only Gods have been shown to use it and all have been directly taught or clearly took time to learn it. Subhuti, who is Mori's teacher and taught him the skill. Mori didn't copy it. Satan then read Mori's mind to figure out how it worked, and replicated. Garou would need to figure out the specific mechanism of the ability to replicate it himself without being taught.
Dragon also learned an extremely inferior version of cloning, something he clearly also trained to obtain. So only very specific characters, even those with copying abilities, have learned it and learned it via knowing the specific mechanism behind the ability. It cannot normally be "lol copied". So assuming Garou could figure it out, he could learn it, but he has to figure it out in the first place.
