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Hence 4-A, Possibly Low 2-C. We could also say 4-A, At Most Low 2-C
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Scaling someone to someone they explicitly can’t hurt is a little weird.Hence 4-A, Possibly Low 2-C. We could also say 4-A, At Most Low 2-C
Most of them have the “Powered by the seven Chaos Emeralds” thing going for themThen why does ANY Final Boss aside from Solaris (and Dark Gaia) scale to Super Sonic?
The day that happens is the day MikeBro has valid reasons for a Sonic downgrade.I mean we can always bring back their Planet tiers if we need to-
Just ask them to give input on their message wallTo be fair, I never said you didn't lol.
I figured more staff would be in this thread. It SEEMED like a big deal oof
With that invulnerability by Super Sonic, even if the bot was Low 2-C, it wouldn’t cause damage :VEggman's Mechs: The Super Egg Robot is also placed at Unknown, unless we somehow believe this random bot is Low 2-C. It doesn't even do any meaningful damage to Super Sonic either, like most bosses.
Agreed unless the boss has shown to be able to harm a super form while also having their own tier 2 feats/statements (E.g: Egg Salamander or Phantom King). Scaling bosses to them is a bit dubious with the invulnerability.With that invulnerability by Super Sonic, even if the bot was Low 2-C, it wouldn’t cause damage :V
You could argue Knuckles nulled the Chaos Emeralds with his connection to the Master Emerald but I guess that’s headcanon atm.Tier 2 base game Knuckles when?
Tier 2 base game Knuckles when?
Even if you exclude the theory that Knuckles nulled the Emeralds in this instance, him knocking out Super Sonic is a textbook outlier. I still stand by scaling the Advance final bosses to Low 2-C in SOME way. No one really debunked my argumentsAgreed unless the boss has shown to be able to harm a super form while also having their own tier 2 feats/statements (E.g: Egg Salamander or Phantom King). Scaling bosses to them is a bit dubious with the invulnerability.
Tier 2 base game Knuckles when?
Even if you exclude the theory that Knuckles nulled the Emeralds in this instance, him knocking out Super Sonic is a textbook outlier. I still stand by scaling the Advance final bosses to Low 2-C in SOME way. No one really debunked my arguments
Considering Super Sonic could only harm her by attacking her eyes, I’d say she scalesWhat about Mother Wisp?
Wisps are a bit weird. I heard there was cut content of Wisp power being stronger than Chaos Energy. Seems it was removed like Eggman having a fake mustache line.Considering Super Sonic could only harm her by attacking her eyes, I’d say she scales
Also the implications of the Black Arms = Wisps with the unused line about an one eyed black wisp (That suspiciously sounds like Dooms eye) getting cast out.Wisps are a bit weird. I heard there was cut content of Wisp power being stronger than Chaos Energy. Seems it was removed like Eggman having a fake mustache line.
I mean, that sounds like supporting evidence Chaos Energy varies on how much power it gives (For Games. Archie Prefect Chaos is still Archie's main Outlier with those darn Super Emeralds)So question, what are we doing with Ix, given him being powered by the master emerald directly, but gets beaten by Super Sonic
I’m sorry but *EchidnaI think there were arguments of him just being 2-C because he is an equidna
Why? The reason was that echidnas can use the full power of the ME, unlike othersthat seems incredibly dumb
It was added recently, without a CRT even, and it makes no sense, Eggman never outruns Super Sonic in the classic games, either it should be reworded to remove that super and keep it as just Sonic, or just removed in the first placeDr. Eggman being able to briefly stay ahead of Super Sonic in the classic games is a Game Mechanic.
That is true. The only two times Eggman is "outrunning" Sonic in the Classic Games are in Sonic 2 and in Sonic 3 & Knuckles, and in both cases Sonic is unable to turn Super while chasing EggmanIt was added recently, without a CRT even, and it makes no sense, Eggman never outruns Super Sonic in the classic games, either it should be reworded to remove that super and keep it as just Sonic, or just removed in the first place
oh you mean like that, I thought you were saying that people were trying to upscale him in his entirety to 2-C just because he is an echidna, yeah that is why I stated at least low 2-C, also that causes circular scaling if we do upscale him cause it makes Super Sonic/Chaos emeralds<Hyper Sonic/Super Emeralds<ME<Ix<Super SonicWhy? The reason was that echidnas can use the full power of the ME, unlike othersgotta love when people call something dumb when they don't even know the actual point
That's exactly why scaling him to the full power of the Master Emerald is wrong, because the scaling it creates contradicts itselfalso that causes circular scaling if we do upscale him cause it makes Super Sonic/Chaos emeralds<Hyper Sonic/Super Emeralds<ME<Ix<Super Sonic
Yeah IX definitely scale to Super Sonic, and might to his full power as well, but scaling him to the full power of the ME is a big noi know, im just saying that he should be At least low 2-C given him being able to hurt SS and do actual decent damage, + him being able to take multiple hits from SS in the combo