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So you concede to stonewalling now
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Further Guilty Gear Revisions
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Wow, that makes you first to at least admit to stonewalling instead of closing thread. But hey I'll humor you with a small calc example that's practically super easy to do in a few minutes and might even shock you at how low the results are to were it's a minor feat at best.
Johnny's sword moving at the speed of light.
The Shirasaya was first created after a long period of conflict in feudal Japan. It had been made to keep swords that were prohibited for public use. The Shirasaya Katana's Blade length is 71 cm, while the handle is 25 cm. The blade width is 3.2 cm, and the overall sword weight is 1.3KG.
1.3KG sword slamming in at light speed resulting in....... 5.8419086617893E+16 J or just scratching city level. And that's extremely peak low end stuff.
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How was Slayer's IK calculated then?
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1: you have to slow the video down to 0.2 times to see the small visible galaxy in the background and the one in AC had the light of those star stretching so justice had to have at warp speeds.
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They used a weird luminosity calc that they can't use anymore.
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Put it on a blog and get it evaluated.
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Você quer dizer isso ? Parece mesmo uma galáxia, mas é discutível se esta é realmente uma galáxia ou apenas uma estrela no fundo mudando sua forma em favor da perspectiva da câmera. especially when this IK in a more detailed animation(XX ACC) only shows background stars
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Nah, you go post it cause tbh Idk what you dudes do with it or guilty gear cause this back and forth getting kinda clownish now. Honestly I still don't agree with previous thread but @Antvasima you can count me out of this thread, I ain't even mad cause this was kinda funny humoring around with these guys but I'm checking out.Put it on a blog and get it evaluated.
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Ayy lmao. Alright.
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Don't give up on the topic because of it, even if you can't convince them of this point of KE, there is still the possibility that you will succeed in establishing other attributes.
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I doubt that tbh
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I mean I can throw calcs at the dart board like rapid fire like the blackhole and just say it's a nanometer in swartschild radius and get a mass about 7.422 x 10^14 tons to tally in 1.816 x 10^34 j in GBE even though it can get to 7.262 x 10^34 j if you bump the swartschild radius to 4 nanometers and even since the smallest obersable object with the naked eye is 55 micrometers boom you got 9.8 x 10^38 j , but it's not like I really wanna give up it's just kinda exhausting throwing myself back into a slugfest like usual.
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Anyway, about this...
Also, have you all reached any agreements here yet?
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I'm just gonna bump this again since it quickly got surrounded in argument posts.
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Did you calculate Slayer's IK?
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Even if they approve the use of KE in this case, there is still the problem that no one appears to have the original calculation link or someone hasn't made a new version
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Yeah, it was easy you do the same thing in the bridget calc but with way higher speed and further distance using a few different masses Slayer's arm, most of the main casts weights, and potemkin as a high end.
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Can you send me these two calculations?
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Maybe I will add Happy Chaos profiles
but I will do it when Happy Chaos DLC release
but I will do it when Happy Chaos DLC release
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Do we have Nago profile?
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Found it thanks to the Wayback Machine
No we don't. He should scale to Sol Badguy as the two fought evenly both in story and arcade mode (although Sol's arcade is not canon)
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Are you referring to me? I am just trying to inform myself about the reasons for your viewpoints.
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No, I was referring to everyone else
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I need some collaboration with getting this thead organised, so we can get something productive done here.
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I have written in detail the reasonings, although given most have stopped I wish to avoid writing down stuff and acting as if I agree.
The issue is that there are a pair of feats, one is a Black Hole creation (while the creation is hax, Sol Badguy was able to scale) so we have to either to to the lower end 5-B (it's stated to have more energy than anything on the planet) to... whatever it is if we agree on it being an actual Black Hole, as well as Slayer's feat of punching people into another galaxy .. that of course, has issues because it's a clear case of FTL Kinetic energy.
The issue is that there are a pair of feats, one is a Black Hole creation (while the creation is hax, Sol Badguy was able to scale) so we have to either to to the lower end 5-B (it's stated to have more energy than anything on the planet) to... whatever it is if we agree on it being an actual Black Hole, as well as Slayer's feat of punching people into another galaxy .. that of course, has issues because it's a clear case of FTL Kinetic energy.
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I'm going to post some stuff in this thread soon, one of them is a Sol feat during Guilty Gear 2 Overture that I haven't seen posted so far, I'm just trying to elaborate the argument better and then post it here
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The Sol feat during Guilty Gear 2 Overture is this, which, it destroys the entrance to the Cube(If the speech seems too vague, go to 5: 42), and the entrance to the Cube it's made purely of magic, the blocking at the entrance is magical, in such a way that the only way to enter is to know the necessary magic chords, which was the reason for the search for the "key" during the game's events, Sol recognized the chords, but out of indisposition he just destroyed rather than dispelling. But why would this be scalable for the AP? Simple, it is said in the lore section of GG 2 that if the spell were attempted to be used by force a big bang would be caused. And if Sol destroyed magic even more with one punch, that means he applied force to the magic so that it was destroyed, this is an even more extreme situation than the one described in the lore section.
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After reading it, I don't think it's the case. All it says is that you can potentially make a big bang with magic. Not that the entrance of the cube has enough magic to cause a Big Bang.
Overall it's a potential Low 2-C by hax. But no character would scale to it
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It is said that using force magic would cause a big bang, and the Sol does something more extreme than that, which is to destroy magic through its punch. Keep in mind that the spell described by the lore section is a generic, common spell, as the one involving the entrance to the Cube is a more complex one, so if the description holds for common spells, then it will also hold for the spell present at the entrance to the Cube, as it is of a higher level.
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You misread everything.
It doesn't say that. It says 'If you use a spell by force, you may cause a big bang' AKA a Low 2-C feat by hax (and being incompetent).
Sol used brute force, but that doesn't make the spell have more durability.
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But that's what I said that says, reread my comment "if the spell were attempted to be used by force a big bang would be caused." And Sol using brute force to destroy magic is something more intense than merely using force magic, which is the situation that is described in the lore section. If what Sol did is something superior to the situation described, then it should be given to it the level that the situation would be, because what it did is... superior.
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