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Four Knights of the Apocalypse/Nanatsu no Taizai Main Discussion Thread
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Sotaco777
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And about Percival other hax ?
https://vsbattles.com/threads/four-knights-of-the-apocalypse-abilities-crt.162545/
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multiple things lord, if ur still here... ludos speed isnt editors statement its Q/A theses are facts and extra info on the lore.. just like bleach kubos Q/As which are used as canons NNT is no different.
also is there a reason we dont add anything from the anime to behemoths feats? the episodes are out so shouldnt we use that now instead or is the manga still better?
also is there a reason we dont add anything from the anime to behemoths feats? the episodes are out so shouldnt we use that now instead or is the manga still better?
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also made a lil part one of percy abilities if someone wants to add it to the pre profile
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Sotaco777
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Damn my thread needs to be approved.Wait do you know how to get approved ?
Demon_Lord18
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I expected to be out for a few months, but it didn't take long.
I'm making a profile for Worreldane, Fiddich, Elgin
I'll wait a bit longer to do the Beltreipe one
I got 6-C with this calculation, do you think it's correct?
The Ban who fought this demon had the power of a holy knight, meaning that any sin scales 10x up 6-C+
He would have been easily defeated if he hadn't been immortal, but he was still able to damage the Red demon
The way I calculated the weight was wrong, and it was lowered to 23 exatons, but I did a few things and got 771,510 Exatons
I'm making a profile for Worreldane, Fiddich, Elgin
I'll wait a bit longer to do the Beltreipe one
I got 6-C with this calculation, do you think it's correct?
The Ban who fought this demon had the power of a holy knight, meaning that any sin scales 10x up 6-C+
He would have been easily defeated if he hadn't been immortal, but he was still able to damage the Red demon
Demon_Lord18
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The statement doesn't come from the Q&A session, it comes from a side text that we've never seen Nakaba quote in his fanbooks
It doesn't help at all
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I would put Worreldane's intelligence higher...she created the lizardmen race.
Demon_Lord18
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I haven't even got to that part yet, it's probably from the profile I copied
Demon_Lord18
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Flash SoL is inconsistent
1-Cusack can intercept Ludociel with Flash
2-Cusack not only keeps up with but also defeats Ludociel in a duel, making several cuts in his clothes
3-Ludociel intercepting the First Demon's attack without using Flash
It would be better to remove the speed of light based on Flash and put in “higher with Flash”
We would still have the FTL feat of the commandments
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Don’t Agree
1. Using Cusack as an Anti Feat really doesn’t work when statements like this exists implying at that very moment Zeldris was inferior to Cusack.
2. It was also Nightime (Vis Chandler) so Cusack was amped.
3. Can you prove he wasn’t using Flash? I’m pretty sure we just assume his grace is on everytime he’s in battle just like the other archangels. Especially when he had to cover a certain distance in order to block that attack. I am inclined to believe that he used his grace
Demon_Lord18
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These two serve to show the inconsistency in the third
Ludociel's true body>First Demon>Ludociel's weakened true body>Cusack>Ludociel in Margareth's body=speed of light
All these characters, even though they are far superior to Cusack (who is listed as relativist+) would only be SoL since they were still inferior to Ludociel's true body.
I saw this somewhere here on the forum, but whether he used the flash or not at that moment isn't very relevant.
The middle panel implies this, so I agree
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We currently accept him intercepting Ludociel as Relativistic + due to Ludociel being weakened by the way.
Wouldn’t say those characters like the original demon are far superior to Cusack as the original demon is half Cusack half Chandler meaning although superior, Cusack serves as half of its strength.
I really don’t quite understand the rest of your argument.
Demon_Lord18
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This is only accepted for his strength, he hasn't gotten any slower
He'd still be 2x stronger than Cusack, maybe twice as fast too, but that's just a guess
First Demon before the crisis was only SoL, since Ludociel with his real body was only SoL
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Using what we accept on the profiles, The First Demon before Crisis is Relativistic + for being faster than Cusack and the profile even acknowledges it got outsped by Ludociel in his astral form.
Demon_Lord18
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The link is dead, but where does the quote that Ludociel is weakened in Margaret's body come from? If it's based on this quote from Cusack, he says this after Ludociel doesn't even scratch his body, making it clear that he was referring to the strength of his attacks, not his speed.
Here, Ludociel asks Merlin why he can't touch Cusack and wonders if it's his magical power. However, Merlin says that they are very strong and fast. At no point does Ludociel say or imply that his body has weakened over the course of the fight. Even Sariel and Tarmiel, who took random vessels, didn't get weaker over time. Ludociel, with a perfect vassel, would hardly weaken very quickly.
Here, Ludociel asks Merlin why he can't touch Cusack and wonders if it's his magical power. However, Merlin says that they are very strong and fast. At no point does Ludociel say or imply that his body has weakened over the course of the fight. Even Sariel and Tarmiel, who took random vessels, didn't get weaker over time. Ludociel, with a perfect vassel, would hardly weaken very quickly.
I always thought it was listed as FTL before it used crisis
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I think we should revisit Tarmiel’s Ocean feat. I believe we should be using the artic ocean as reference
Demon_Lord18
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Have you discovered something new?
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Nah it just feels disingenuous that the artic ocean end never got accepted, even though everything implies he created an ocean
Demon_Lord18
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They will probably continue to reject
Demon_Lord18
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I got over 1 km to the sacred tree that Albion cut down, using the method from that Behemoth video.
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“You might as well be spitting into the ocean”
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What video?
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That's a pretty clear metaphor. It's equating the futility of trying to escape with the futility of spitting into an ocean, or sighing at a tornado.
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What is the current accepted calc for this?
Demon_Lord18
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Demon_Lord18
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Tarmiel ocean (yeah, again)
vsbattles.fandom.com
Demon_Lord18
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You could take advantage of being here and evaluate this simple calc
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Wait what method are we talking about?
And also wouldn’t the tree be in the process of regrowing when the Albion cut it down?
Demon_Lord18
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The small tree, according to my calculations, grew 5 times bigger, so I assumed that the sacred tree also grew 5 times bigger
No, the tree had already stopped growing
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Are you talking about the height of the sacred tree being the same as it was during before it burned down or Are you talking about the current height before it got cut by the Albion?
Demon_Lord18
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Before being cut, the old one must be more than 50km long
Demon_Lord18
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This calculation would be MFTL+ if it were usable. Ludociel is above the trees which are comparable to the light of grace which is 2407.92m. The funny thing is that angsize gave 16m, while Drole alone already has 25m
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:ZawierJ/Meliodas_Blitz_Ludoshel
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:ZawierJ/Meliodas_Blitz_Ludoshel
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Shouldn’t it be usable tho, it’s a one step scaling chain and it’s accepted on the wiki now iirc
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the human host was holding them back
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We accept side texts as long as they are literal which is the case for this one.
Though i agree that the SOL statement only presents Ludociel in Margarets body as SOL maybe stronger forms are higher than that with SOL being the absolute lowest value for flash
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