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Four Knights of the Apocalypse/Nanatsu no Taizai Main Discussion Thread
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Is Post Purgatory Ban scaling to 659.52 teratons for fighting on par with 2nd DM Mel against PDK
So would that mean that PP Ban had a Zenkai Boost after the DK Mel fight?
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He had his scared erasure which amps him
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Not for fighting on par, just for both of them being able to hold him off to the same extent with King.
Ban didn't get some sort of boost in that time (plus, it'd invalidate the scaling chain).
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Ik that’s why i said if Arthur is surprised from the entire distance Tristan would’ve been too
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He got his sacred treasure
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But isn't 50% DK ~ 2nd DM Mel > PP Ban ~ Base PP Mel ~ DK Mel
Or is DK Mel scaling to 659.52 teratons as well?
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So DK Mel would scale to the 659.52 teratons value then since that DK was able to trade blows with PP Ban?
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Mel is boundless anyway
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So
PDK / 100% DK (1.319 Petatons) > 50% DK ~ 2nd Form DK Zel > DK Mel > 1st Form DK Zel (659.52 teratons)
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I remember Hellblaze imbue to weapon always stated to be "enchanment : Hellblaze"
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It doesn't really have to be stated to conculde that it's an enchantment
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Also i just realized that Elizabeth ark also can be enchanment
(Same as tristan doing when he fight melascula)
(Same as tristan doing when he fight melascula)
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No around 412.2 Teratons going with the current scaling chain
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Makes sense, thought I saw 82 teratons for that assualt mode
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Wouldn't DK Mel scale to 659.52 Teratons scaling from PP Ban , which would scale 1st Form DK Zel scale to that value since you brought up a scan where the DK says Zel's body isn't that weaker than Mel's?
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DK Mel already does scale to Ban.
Because Ban and Mel DK aren't 659.52 teratons from their own feats/scaling, they're 659.52 teratons from scaling to Meliodas' 2nd Demon Mark in the first place.
What you're suggesting would actually remove that 4x multiplier above Elizabeth through back scaling.
Also, he doesn't say it's not that much weaker, he says it's not far inferior. There's a big difference, hence why I'm able to apply the 4x multiplier to him and have it scale to Ban (thusly 50% DK) in the first place.
Because Ban and Mel DK aren't 659.52 teratons from their own feats/scaling, they're 659.52 teratons from scaling to Meliodas' 2nd Demon Mark in the first place.
What you're suggesting would actually remove that 4x multiplier above Elizabeth through back scaling.
Also, he doesn't say it's not that much weaker, he says it's not far inferior. There's a big difference, hence why I'm able to apply the 4x multiplier to him and have it scale to Ban (thusly 50% DK) in the first place.
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With post purgatory assualt mode he would be high 6a with assault mode
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What about DK Zel 1 and 2?
I am aware.
Wouldn't Elizabeth still be in the 160 Teraton range (for being 2x Ludo) with Base PP Mel being stronger than that Elizabeth?
Your scan would still imply that DK Zel is close to DK Mel.
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Who says there's different marks for DK Zel? His body transforms.
Base Meliodas is > weakened Zeldris, though.
So, again, this scaling can't possibly work and is still lower than what we're trying to get currently.
Which is why we scale him above Mael.
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So your solution is to not use the scan as is, but as a minimum scaling interpretation. Where both DK Zel and Mel are both above Mael but DK Zel doesn't scale to DK Mel?
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Who says I'm not using the scan as it is?
Again, what he says is that he's worried it wouldn't be far inferior, but it's not too bad. Where in that sentence does he remotely suggest they're equal, or really that close?
In fact, he possessed an inferior, almost dead vessel that didn't already get used to 4 of the 10 Commandments, and lost a shit ton of magic. When he made the statement, he logically wasn't that close in terms of sheer power.
Again, what he says is that he's worried it wouldn't be far inferior, but it's not too bad. Where in that sentence does he remotely suggest they're equal, or really that close?
In fact, he possessed an inferior, almost dead vessel that didn't already get used to 4 of the 10 Commandments, and lost a shit ton of magic. When he made the statement, he logically wasn't that close in terms of sheer power.
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I wanna see if I can bring back this calculation so it can be accepted
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Speedy Spear
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Wouldn’t it be the same calc stacking problem as for the Luffy and Naruto feat?I wanna see if I can bring back this calculation so it can be accepted
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It falls under the same principle as aether's calc which seemingly is accepted
Plus it's not really calc stacking when it's not using a calculation for a calculation to begin with
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I hope upcoming chapter this night will have good feats, the title is "hyperion" refering to sun god, which is likely impossible if it was mael due sunshine grace still in gawain. I expect it was arthur create sun to kill meliodas, because also by nakaba spoiler seems like the sky is melted. Or escanor got revived by arthur
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K we’ll see then
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New Chapter
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HOLY SHIEEEETTTTTT!!!!!! nakaba literally put lancelot in the same level of god tier lmaoooo. HOWWWWW can bruh ordinary human fairy can stomp king of chaos"
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HOLY SHIEEEETTTTTT!!!!!! nakaba literally put lancelot in the same level of god tier lmaoooo. HOWWWWW can bruh ordinary human fairy can stomp king of chaos"
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Another spoiler
nothing related about hyperion sun god, damn
nothing related about hyperion sun god, damn
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This week QNA
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I sense power creep so Lancelot is stronger than Meliodas? No mael? Why was it called Hyperion?
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Lancelot is quite easily stronger than Tristan
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Okay @ByAsura
We have another speed blitzing feats, but this one maybe doesn't impressive due the distance. Even it does, currently it's only scale to lancelot.
1. Arthur doesn't realize his sword got broken by lancelot arrow
2. Arthur doesn't realize he got durability negation (same durability negation as he do to the big guy in dark talisman member) that was happen so fast
We have another speed blitzing feats, but this one maybe doesn't impressive due the distance. Even it does, currently it's only scale to lancelot.
1. Arthur doesn't realize his sword got broken by lancelot arrow
2. Arthur doesn't realize he got durability negation (same durability negation as he do to the big guy in dark talisman member) that was happen so fast
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