For Strongest 7-C Speed Equalized: Hiiragi vs Es

[ShiroyashaGinSan]

Es vs Hiiragi Seijuurou

Lost Memories Es used obviously

SBA and speed is equalized

 

[Schnee_One]

Es cause she's hot

 

[ShiroyashaGinSan]

''Cough cough she's kinda loli cough''

 

[LightSShinning]

>Age:150

Legal loli cough

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

ok so

does Es resist having her everything stolen right off the bat?

and can she survive the mind, soul and concept AIDS?

 

[ShiroyashaGinSan]

Cough this is Lost Memories and she is 150 in Central Fiction. In Lost Memories, she is less than ten years old cough

 

[ShiroyashaGinSan]

ok so

does Es resist having her everything stolen right off the bat?

and can she survive the mind, soul and concept AIDS?

Es has no feelings during the fight so condition is not met. Plus she has passive PI, a **** you passive power null plus Attack Negation for good measure.

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

Pretty sure literally existing at all is enough for Harirankyu to activate, because its forced cooperation works both ways

Passive PI is an issue tho, Hiiragi can't survive that afaik

EDIT: unless Es is literally a mindless robot with no will, SBA says she's hostile

 

[ShiroyashaGinSan]

Passive power null is still a thing, it nulled Nine who when grew up was able to use abilities while besides Celica who nulls Amaterasu. So it's 2-A.

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

So both have winning passives........

huh

this got interesting

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

One thing that may help Hiiragi here is that Harirankyu ignores the time axis, although PI does a similar thing iirc

 

[Schnee_One]

How does Hiiragi have winning passives if they get nulled?

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

Because his stealing is passive, ignores resistances and ignores the time axis, although Es' acausality can help with that last bit

 

[ShiroyashaGinSan]

To what extent? Kushinada's Lynchpin nulls seithr at the very core of the Boundary, it's also 2-A null.

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

It ignores resistances through forced cooperation, which is pretty much the mechanics of the power interpreting extremely broad actions as the target allowing themselves to be affected

 

[ShiroyashaGinSan]

And how does it save you from getting power nulled? Yeah, it's passive but so does power null plus it works on powers that are much more larger scale than Hiiragi. The passives clash.

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

Well

Assuming the ignoring the time axis doesn't work due to Es' acausality, this should be an incon due to both having winning passives

 

[ShiroyashaGinSan]

She resists all of the AIDS and get nulled instantly. Plus attack negation is a thing so the stealing is turning non-existent in an instant.

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

Well it's all passive, so what takes precidence?

like, this is basically saying that the stealing gets nulled, Hiiragi gets PI'd and Es gets her everything stolen and absorbed all at the same time

 

[ShiroyashaGinSan]

Again, passives clash in this match. Namely stealing and power null because that's how power null works. One of them has the better Hax, and one of them gets ignored.

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

tfw ALRF needs to get off his ass and make Senshinkan 2-A

well shiet

passive win for Es then

 

[Schnee_One]

Because his stealing is passive, ignores resistances and ignores the time axis, although Es' acausality can help with that last bit

Yes

But if it gets passively nulled, then itb wont even proc to begin with.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

tfw ALRF needs to get off his ass and make Senshinkan 2-A

never going to happe

 

[Theglassman12]

Even if Senshikan gets to 2-A, BB characters have a habit of bypassing resistance on a 2-A scale and having layers of resistance on that scale too.

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

Senshinkan 2-A would be above BB level iirc

 

[Warren_Valion]

I thought resistance where based on dimensional level, not on AP value.

 

[Theglassman12]

It is. AP doesn't amount to anything aside from just hitting harder.

 

[Warren_Valion]

It is. AP doesn't amount to anything aside from just hitting harder.

So what would upgrading Senshinkan to 2-A accomplish in terms of this fight?

 

[Theglassman12]

Maybe get hax on the level, but considering BB characters already have layers of resistances to 2-A hax and has hax that could bypass 2-A resistance, it likely won't mean much.