Flumpty Bumpty BDE 2

[ShionAH]

Type 2: Characters whose nature is defined by lacking spatiotemporal features and being superior to them in nature. These characters aren't necessarily superior to spacetime on every level, but just within the scope which they are shown. Due to transcending this spacetime they are immune to Spatial Manipulation and Time Manipulation of it.


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* Flumpty existed before time

* The timeline merge did not effect Flumpty

Agree: @AKUTO123
Disagree:
Neutral: @RaveeCPN

 

[RaveeCPN]

Transcending is not enough for BDE. It also requires statements like independence. But I will remain neutral- Cuz I'm biased

 

[AKUTO123]

Seems quite simple

 

[ShionAH]

Transcending is not enough for BDE. It also requires statements like independence. But I will remain neutral- Cuz I'm biased

Flumpty existed before time

 

[RaveeCPN]

Flumpty existed before time

That doesn't mean he is independent from it- But IDC about Flumpty at all. So you don't need to reply to my comments anymore

 

[Aseka]

Flumpty existed before time

Existed before time doesn't mean Flumpty independent of it.

 

[ShionAH]

Existed before time doesn't mean Flumpty independent of it.

It supports him being above time and space, he can also control times concept and he is also not effected by the timeline merge
It is also implied in every point of time flumpty is the same flumpty showing independance

 

[Barbar01]

i think it's not enough

 

[Aseka]

It supports him being above time and space, he can also control times concept and he is also not effected by the timeline merge
It is also implied in every point of time flumpty is the same flumpty showing independance

Controlling concept of time just Concept Manip, and what do you mean by timeline merge?
Being same in every point of time isn't showing independence.

 

[ShionAH]

and what do you mean by timeline merge?

Timelines in the game were merged making Kevin Jr. and BBB the same person, Flumpty was not effected

 

[Aseka]

Timelines in the game were merged making Kevin Jr. and BBB the same person, Flumpty was not effected

Can you explain more?

 

[ShionAH]

Can you explain more?

"Blam and Kevin Jr. timelines from the comic colliding into one timeline, even though that doesn’t make any sense."
The timeline colliding did not effect the egg, Theres more quotes too

• I like to think Flumpty used his powers of transcending time and space to visit FNAF, kill Freddy, and come back with his head.
• The easiest answer is that Flumpty Bumpty is based on Humpty Dumpty, but you could also say he’s the answer to the age old question, “Which came first, the chicken or the egg?” since he’s an egg who has supposedly existed since before time began.

Flumptys simple fall can cause a rupture in space-time:

• Anything could happen, from a harmless bump to the irreversible rupturing of the space-time continuum.
• Even when the nights reset Flumpty is not effected as he is most likely the one messing with time without consequences

 

[CodeCCLL]

Flumpty existed before time

Web Novel Rimuru has much better feats than Flumpty for BDE Type 2.

While BDE Type 2 is currently being discussing for Web Novel Rimuru, It's impossible for Flumpty to have a BDE.

Flumpty only exists before time.
If you read the BDE page ,You realize that it is not enough for this.

 

[Aseka]

I don't see it can be a qualification for BDE. Looks like it can resist Timeline Merge. I don't know how to say it, maybe just a simple resistance to Time Manipulation or some Acausality.

 

[ShionAH]

Web Novel Rimuru has much better feats than Flumpty for BDE Type 2.

While BDE Type 2 is currently being discussing for Web Novel Rimuru, It's impossible for Flumpty to have a BDE.

Flumpty only exists before time.
If you read the BDE page ,You realize that it is not enough for this.

Go away with your bullshit. This is not Rimuru nor is it about rimuru

 

[ShionAH]

I don't see it can be a qualification for BDE. Looks like it can resist Timeline Merge. I don't know how to say it, maybe just a simple resistance to Time Manipulation or some Acausality.

What more do we need? Flumpty transcends time and space and has shown to be not effected by Time or Space in anyway. Thats straight up BDE

I am gonna gather more feats

 

[Aseka]

Go away with your bullshit. This is not Rimuru nor is it about rimuru

What is he/she trying to say is, Rimuru has a better feats yet still hard to qualified.

 

[ShionAH]

What is he/she trying to say is, Rimuru has a better feats yet still hard to qualified.

Its still bullshit to use Rimuru to adress a completely different character, plus Rimurus feats and quotes are more about his hax not about his existence

 

[Aseka]

What more do we need? Flumpty transcends time and space and has shown to be not effected by Time or Space in anyway. Thats straight up BDE

I am gonna gather more feats

You can't explain a proper feats for independency of Flumpty against spatiotemporal features.

Simply transcends time and space refer to many meaning.

 

[Aseka]

Its still bullshit to use Rimuru to adress a completely different character, plus Rimurus feats and quotes are more about his hax not about his existence

Because of that I said, Rimuru still hard to get BDE.

 

[ShionAH]

You can't explain a proper feats for independency of Flumpty against spatiotemporal features.

Simply transcends time and space refer to many meaning.

I literally am throwing you feats and quotes dont ignore them

 

[ShionAH]

Because of that I said, Rimuru still hard to get BDE.

Still bullshit, Rimurus feats are way worse than Flumpty

 

[Aseka]

I literally am throwing you feats and quotes dont ignore them

You didn't understand how BDE works, and I'm not ignoring it.

 

[Aseka]

Still bullshit, Rimurus feats are way worse than Flumpty

It's clear that you didn't follow that thread

 

[ShionAH]

You didn't understand how BDE works, and I'm not ignoring it.

I am sending proof why Flumpty being independant of time is pretty much there

It's clear that you didn't follow that thread

Nah the thread was just poor

 

[ShionAH]

Again transcending plus it shows that anti feats dont matter in this case

This much proof is way above anything Rimuru has + BDE is justified

 

[Aseka]

I am sending proof why Flumpty being independant of time is pretty much there

And I debunked it, so which part that I miss or I ignore?

 

[ShionAH]

Flumpty is above the laws of time

 

[ShionAH]

And I debunked it, so which part that I miss or I ignore?

Debunk my ass. You just said it was a resistance with no other points

 

[Aseka]

No, you missed something.

 

[ShionAH]

You can't explain a proper feats for independency of Flumpty against spatiotemporal features.

Simply transcends time and space refer to many meaning.

This was only 1 comment that might be a "debunk" but its still ignoring all the other quotes

 

[CodeCCLL]

This much proof is way above anything Rimuru has + BDE is justified

Ok, obviously you didn't read the OP. But it's pointless to talk about it here.

I am sending proof why Flumpty being independant of time is pretty much there

Can you share the scan that Flumpty lacks spatial and time features?

Otherwise, transcending Space-time or existing before time is not sufficient for BDE Type 2.

 

[ShionAH]

Can you share the scan that Flumpty lacks spatial and time features?

He is literally above time and space meaning that he cannot actually have these features, It is stated that he transcends it completely several times
Was not effected by a timeline merge and is not effected by resets of the funhouse also is the reason its a constant paradox, can travel to other dimensions by transcending these aspects, time is below him as even a fall of Flumpty can destroy it, if he had time and spatial features he wouldnt have several origins and all of them being true wouldnt make sense, theres infinite Flumptys inside of Flumpty proving that spatial or space does not matter to Flumpty, Flumptys existence is older than time showing he doesnt need time to exist Theres NO anti feats.

 

[CodeCCLL]

He is literally above time and space meaning that he cannot actually have these features, It is stated that he transcends it completely several times
Was not effected by a timeline merge and is not effected by resets of the funhouse also is the reason its a constant paradox, can travel to other dimensions by transcending these aspects, time is below him as even a fall of Flumpty can destroy it, if he had time and spatial features he wouldnt have several origins and all of them being true wouldnt make sense, theres infinite Flumptys inside of Flumpty proving that spatial or space does not matter to Flumpty, Flumptys existence is older than time showing he doesnt need time to exist Theres NO anti feats.

Considering all the expressions, I guess I'm neutral.

There are characters like Flumpty who have these properties (have phrase "transcening space-time and existing before time". ), But many of them haven't BDE Type 2.

BDE Type 2 requires a clear statement or feat that the characters lack Space-Time features.

Also some links open to the same expression and the imgur scan isn't working.

 

[ShionAH]

Also some links open to the same expression and the imgur scan isn't working.

which imgur scan

 

[ShionAH]

There are characters like Flumpty who have these properties (have phrase "transcening space-time and existing before time". ), But many of them haven't BDE Type 2.

Flumpty has more proof tho

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

Flumpty existing before time doesn't prove anything regarding him having dimension of space or not.
You explicitly need to lack dimension of space and time to qualify for any type of bde

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

What is BDE lol?

 

[ShionAH]

Flumpty existing before time doesn't prove anything regarding him having dimension of space or not.
You explicitly need to lack dimension of space and time to qualify for any type of bde

He is literally above time and space meaning that he cannot actually have these features, It is stated that he transcends it completely several times
Was not effected by a timeline merge and is not effected by resets of the funhouse also is the reason its a constant paradox, can travel to other dimensions by transcending these aspects, time is below him as even a fall of Flumpty can destroy it, if he had time and spatial features he wouldnt have several origins and all of them being true wouldnt make sense, theres infinite Flumptys inside of Flumpty proving that spatial or space does not matter to Flumpty, Flumptys existence is older than time showing he doesnt need time to exist Theres NO anti feats.

Look at the entirety of the thread.

What is BDE lol?

Beyond Dimensional Existence

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

Transcending it doesn't mean lacking it. You can merely be on a higher level of it by ontological difference but still possess it