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One night at Flumpty's CRT

VIZION99

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Flumpty Bumpty:
Abstract Existence Type 2 & Nonexistent Physiology Nature 3, aspect 5 [Numbers] (Flumpty's existence is likely every number. Including numbers that are off the scale, and don't exist, making him embody every number, this would mean he both exists and does not at once. While it is stated that Flumpty believes it, he is also nigh-omniscient, meaning he would know it's true)
Immortality type 5 (Flumpty is both dead and alive at the same time)
Acausality Type 1 (Has no origin)
Elasticity: (Can stretch his arms longer than usual)
Immortality Type 2 (can still attack without his face)
Additional Limbs (Flumpty can choose to have multiple limbs and eyes. He can also choose other have tendrils come out of him)
Surfacing Scaling (Can be on the ceiling)
Plot Manipulation & Chaos Manipulation (Everything in the universe is caused by Flumpty's existence, and if something has no explanation, Flumpty caused it.This means Flumpty is the cause for his universe to lack lore)
Law Manipulation (He can reset the night with different rules)
Power Mimicry (He copied the abilities of his friends)
New Justification for Information Manipulation type 2 and Possibly Death Manipulation (He added an Exposure meter. The meter fills up each time each time Flumpty looks at them and the player dies if the meter fills up)
Information Manipulation (Type 1: He caused the gui to glitch out This prevents the player from knowing the actual time, heat, power, and exposure meters)
Berserk Mode (On Flumpty night, Flumpty would snap and brutally killed his friend. He then becomes much more aggressive than usual. He uses his abilities to make it harder for the player to win the night, something Flumpty normally does not do)
Resistance to Ice Manipulation (Flumpty is unbothered by the office reaching cold temperatures while it freezes the player)
Old Immorality (Types 1 and 4)

New immorality (Types 1, 2, 4, and 5: Existed before time, can still attack without his face, Flumpty is a flumpty egg, if he cracks open another one bigger one will replace him. Flumpty is both is dead and alive at the same time)

Old intelligence: (There is nothing that Flumpty doesn’t know, except why he does anything)

New intelligence: (There is nothing that Flumpty doesn’t know, except why he does anything)


Flumpty's lowest tier should be changed from 9-C to 9-B since he killed Redman who has Wall Level durability

Golden Flumpty:
Nonexistent Physiology Nature 1, aspect unknown: (He is a hallucination and hallucinations are not real)
Body Control (He can make his body inverted when jumpscaring the player in ONAF 3)

The Red Man:

His durability should be changed to Wall level because he tanked lava and tanking lava is this durable.
 
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The whole shebang with non-existent physiology is talking about a sexiness scale, not about his existence. Definitely wouldn't work for something that requires serious evidence.

Immo type 5 seems vague and like a joke which shouldn't be taken seriously.

Plot and Chaos manipulation is extremely vague and unless you have direct evidence of Flumpty controlling plot, it won't work. Also pretty sure chaos manipulation doesn't fit here either.

Information manipulation is just dead wrong. Information manipulation on vsbw is close to what Conceptual manipulation is. As in, it is the control of the fundamental information of reality. Like for example if trees are random in size and i rewrite the information to be that trees are all 5 meters tall and they shift to that size - that's info hax. What you have here is 4th wall break and reality warping.

If Golden Flumpty is a hallucination he should either not be scaled at all or, if we say he's still a being, should be incorporeal rather than non-existent.

I could find more issues probably but I'll do it tomorrow.
 
Information manipulation is just dead wrong. Information manipulation on vsbw is close to what Conceptual manipulation is. As in, it is the control of the fundamental information of reality. Like for example if trees are random in size and i rewrite the information to be that trees are all 5 meters tall and they shift to that size - that's info hax. What you have here is 4th wall break and reality warping.
It still counts as type 1 because type 1 does not involve affecting reality warping and just affects knowledge.
 
The whole shebang with non-existent physiology is talking about a sexiness scale, not about his existence. Definitely wouldn't work for something that requires serious evidence.

Immo type 5 seems vague and like a joke which shouldn't be taken seriously.
It's not, It makes it clear that Flumpty is both dead and alive. Also, the Flumpty games were never serious in the first place with the dev even calling the series a joke. Also, the scan for immorality type 5 is used for a scan of Flmupty's Acausality Type 4.
Plot and Chaos manipulation is extremely vague and unless you have direct evidence of Flumpty controlling plot, it won't work. Also pretty sure chaos manipulation doesn't fit here either.
It's laterality stated that Flumpty caused everything in a verse to happen, it's like the definition of plot manipulation.
If Golden Flumpty is a hallucination he should either not be scaled at all or, if we say he's still a being, should be incorporeal rather than non-existent.
Hallucinations are not real.
I could find more issues probably but I'll do it tomorrow.
 
It still counts as type 1 because type 1 does not involve affecting reality warping and just affects knowledge.
It's best to have someone knowledgeable to comment on it but I can see it being possible
It's not, It makes it clear that Flumpty is both dead and alive. Also, the Flumpty games were never serious in the first place with the dev even calling the series a joke. Also, the scan for immorality type 5 is used for a scan of Flmupty's Acausality Type 4.
If it's accepted as a scan it may be okay although honestly I see it as an unserious comment. The whole numbers thing is definitely unusable though.
It's laterality stated that Flumpty caused everything in a verse to happen, it's like the definition of plot manipulation.
Nah, that's the manipulation of reality in one way or another. Plot is a very specific medium. If all events are pre-determined by a godly entity then it just means its either causality manipulation of some sort or just straight up creation, as in, creation of everything, time, space causality, which wouldn't be the manipulation of them but the creation of them. If you have a scan that specifically states Flumpty controls the plot, as in the "narrative" of the universe then that's a different story. You'd need to prove it though.
Hallucinations are not real.
Technically they are since they are a result of biological brain activity which creates dreams and hallucinations. I think it is actually definitely best to talk to someone who is knowledgeable in that since I don't really think we have a presedent for it.
If we actually take it as a straight up hallucination then it'd be an untierable thing since it'd be a figment of the player character's mind that would only exist for the player in question.
 
Flumpty Bumpty:
Abstract Existence Type 2 & Nonexistent Physiology Nature 3, aspect 5 [Numbers] (Flumpty's existence is likely every number. Including numbers that are off the scale, and don't exist, making him embody every number, this would mean he both exists and does not at once. While it is stated that Flumpty believes it, he is also nigh-omniscient, meaning he would know it's true)
This is talking about how sexy he is. We don't index that.
This seems like some kind of joke + I really don't want to start encouraging using random Discord screenshots as scans.
Acausality Type 1 (Has no origin)
Acausality Type 1 requires feats or statements of being immune to time changes.
Sure.
At best this is just a stamina feat.
Sure.
Sure.
Way too vague + I really don't want to start encouraging using random Discord screenshots as scans.
Sure.
Hard to tell from the scan without context.
Absolutely not Info Type 2, but I'm fine with Death Manipulation.
Sure.
Sure.
Sure.
Disagree with both new additions for reasons stated above.
Old intelligence: (There is nothing that Flumpty doesn’t know, except why he does anything)

New intelligence: (There is nothing that Flumpty doesn’t know, except why he does anything)
No issue with adding a scan.
Flumpty's lowest tier should be changed from 9-C to 9-B since he killed Redman who has Wall Level durability
Sure.
Golden Flumpty:
Nonexistent Physiology Nature 1, aspect unknown: (He is a hallucination and hallucinations are not real)
Sure. Aspects should logically at least include 3, probably 1 as well.
If he's interacted with in any way by existing things, it's probably Type 3 though.
Sure.
The Red Man:

His durability should be changed to Wall level because he tanked lava and tanking lava is this durable.
Sure.
 
This is talking about how sexy he is. We don't index that.
Understandable
This seems like some kind of joke + I really don't want to start encouraging using random Discord screenshots as scans.
Discord screenshots are still allowed as long as they are not from misleading questions, look at the scan for Flmupty's Acausality.
Acausality Type 1 requires feats or statements of being immune to time changes.
Since Flumpty existed before time, he automatically gets this. Just like how The Lich gets Acausality type 1 for existing before time
At best this is just a stamina feat.
Pretty sure it is fatal for a person to lose a portion of their head since it should be immorality type 2. I think it also gives him superhuman stamina.
Way too vague + I really don't want to start encouraging using random Discord screenshots as scans.
Discord screenshots are still allowed as long as they are not from misleading questions. Mr. Lopee's resurrection in from a discord scan and it's allowed because it's not from a misleading question.
Hard to tell from the scan without context.
He copied Redman's ability to hack and copied Grunkfuss's portal ability.
Absolutely not Info Type 2, but I'm fine with Death Manipulation.
Understandable
Disagree with both new additions for reasons stated above.
Discord screenshots are still allowed as long as they are not from misleading questions. This scan has be used to support Flumpty being 2-C because it's not from a misleading question.
Sure. Aspects should logically at least include 3, probably 1 as well.
I agree
If he's interacted with in any way by existing things, it's probably Type 3 though.
The only thing that interacted with him is Flumpty but it's a exception because Flumpty has non-physical interaction
 
Abstract Existence Type 2 & Nonexistent Physiology Nature 3, aspect 5 [Numbers] (Flumpty's existence is likely every number. Including numbers that are off the scale, and don't exist, making him embody every number, this would mean he both exists and does not at once. While it is stated that Flumpty believes it, he is also nigh-omniscient, meaning he would know it's true)
Can't be taken seriously.
Not enough for Type 5.
Acausality Type 1 (Has no origin)
Existing before time, and having no origin, does not make you immune to time paradoxes. You just start participating in time the moment it exists.
Sure.
You can survive without a face; this is likely endurance.
Sure.
Sure.
Too vague.
Sure.
Too Vague.
Looks more like the Player is being killed, so this would probably just be Power Bestowal.
Sure.
Sure.
Sure.
Disagree.
Old intelligence: (There is nothing that Flumpty doesn’t know, except why he does anything)

New intelligence: (There is nothing that Flumpty doesn’t know, except why he does anything)
Sure.
Flumpty's lowest tier should be changed from 9-C to 9-B since he killed Redman who has Wall Level durability
Sure.
Nonexistent Physiology Nature 1, aspect unknown: (He is a hallucination and hallucinations are not real)
Aspect Type 3 should be fine.
Sure.
His durability should be changed to Wall level because he tanked lava and tanking lava is this durable.
Need you to link the actual calc so I can make sure it's accepted.
 
So whatever Spaceman and I agree on can be applied now I believe.

Whatever is still in contention could then be discussed or moved to its own thread.
 
Can't be taken seriously.
ok
Not enough for Type 5.
Isn't being alive and dead count as being unbound from life or death?
Existing before time, and having no origin, does not make you immune to time paradoxes. You just start participating in time the moment it exists.
The Lich gets acauality type 1for existing before time.
You can survive without a face; this is likely endurance.
Can Flumpty Stamina be upgraded to superhuman?
Need you to link the actual calc so I can make sure it's accepted.
Here
 
Does it mean the current information type 2 is going to be changed to type 1 too?
 
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