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yeah , for the sake of peace .PaChi2 said:
doesn't mean it doesn't hurt .
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Fire Emblem discussion thread 3 (Houses): ZA WARUDO is now a green -haired child
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doesn't mean it doesn't hurt .
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We scale meteor the same way for all series. Three Houses is no different.Ted Ed said:
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yeah , for the sake of peace .
doesn't mean it doesn't hurt .
Rhea chose to spread lies instead of the truth regarding Nemesis, the Heroes and what happened in Zanado.
She didnt want the people to find out the truth so twisted that story. She had 1000 years to correct it if it were that painful.
doesn't mean it doesn't hurt .
Rhea chose to spread lies instead of the truth regarding Nemesis, the Heroes and what happened in Zanado.
She didnt want the people to find out the truth so twisted that story. She had 1000 years to correct it if it were that painful.
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so that the humans betray her again ? why would she do that ?
her people already tried coming clean with humans and with the best intentions possible and still got almost wiped out because the humans betraying that good will .
madness is trying to do the same things expecting differents results .
her people already tried coming clean with humans and with the best intentions possible and still got almost wiped out because the humans betraying that good will .
madness is trying to do the same things expecting differents results .
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I doubt twisting the history hurt her that bad to hide the truth about Nemesis and protect the descendants of the nobles.
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I mean, to be fair, considering what humans have done in the past...she does have a reason to not truat humans with too much.
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no , edelgard started her war because she believed every lies TWSITD fed her and never tried to even talk to rhea or anyone really .
and as i said , rhea's people already tried coming clean and in peace to humans, it worked wonders apparently .
and as i said , rhea's people already tried coming clean and in peace to humans, it worked wonders apparently .
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Im confident edelgard would have never attempted to take the stones if she knew what they were.
Also, that goes both ways (especially Byleth, lol), nobody tried to talk to the other side.
Edelgard started her war to destroy the nobility system that the Church was promoting in which Crests decided who was valid to rule. Simple as that.
Im not saying that distrusting humans wasnt natural, Im saying that trying to cover up the tragedy and building an unfair nobility system wasnt the right choice.
Also, that goes both ways (especially Byleth, lol), nobody tried to talk to the other side.
Edelgard started her war to destroy the nobility system that the Church was promoting in which Crests decided who was valid to rule. Simple as that.
Im not saying that distrusting humans wasnt natural, Im saying that trying to cover up the tragedy and building an unfair nobility system wasnt the right choice.
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Everyone made bad choices tbh.
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in the tomb you mean ? so you mean that she is ready to kill thousands upon thousands of people with her war but will not rob graves ?PaChi2 said:
no , edelgard is clearly ready to do anything to suceed . She will ally with the devil himself( pretty much does it , it's hard to do worse evil than TWSITD) she will kill as many as she have to , no matter if it's innocents peasants, soldiers defending their homes , fellow classmates or childhood friends .
robbing graves is the least of her crimes .
"And we still dont fully know the Agarthian's tale." A group of humans who after profiting from rhea's people technologies thought themselves as gods , got bodied after tried to betray them , got mad and retreated underground and then planned revenge on the world .
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i did but i don't judge her on her route , i judged her on all routes as a whole .
And in 3 out of 4 routes , she is heartless tyrant that will do anything to achieve victory .
so she is more consistent as an evil bad guy
claude is more consistent as an all around good guy
dimitri is consistent as tortured lad that goes mad for revenge . Almost the same for rhea in CF .
And in 3 out of 4 routes , she is heartless tyrant that will do anything to achieve victory .
so she is more consistent as an evil bad guy
claude is more consistent as an all around good guy
dimitri is consistent as tortured lad that goes mad for revenge . Almost the same for rhea in CF .
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Fire Emblem: Three Houses
"How miscommunication ***** everything up"
"How miscommunication ***** everything up"
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i judged her at her most consistent , just like every other characther. But i guess "judging as a whole" is too complicated of a concept for you.
she could have been the embodiment of kindness in her route , it wouldn't matter to me when she is a heartless tyrant in all other routes .
If claude was only a good guy in GD but changed complelty in all other routes , i won't judge him solely on his GD actions .
But guess what ? claude and dimitri stay consistent.
Edelgard does not stay consistent but remain a bad guy in the majority of routes , therefore it is how i treat her .
she could have been the embodiment of kindness in her route , it wouldn't matter to me when she is a heartless tyrant in all other routes .
If claude was only a good guy in GD but changed complelty in all other routes , i won't judge him solely on his GD actions .
But guess what ? claude and dimitri stay consistent.
Edelgard does not stay consistent but remain a bad guy in the majority of routes , therefore it is how i treat her .
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You dont see Edelgard's good side in any other route because, ya know, you are fighting her in the other routes.
You dont know about Edelgard's backstory in any other route because you cant have supports with her or talk to her.
If you want to skip all of this information when judging Edelgard's character, go ahead. But you are being clearly biased, just so you know.
This is as if you tried to judge post-ts Dimitri's character without knowing about his past or anything to him. He'd come to you as a sadistic, bloodlusted individual. But if you take into account the rest, you see that he is tormented and stuff.
You dont know about Edelgard's backstory in any other route because you cant have supports with her or talk to her.
If you want to skip all of this information when judging Edelgard's character, go ahead. But you are being clearly biased, just so you know.
This is as if you tried to judge post-ts Dimitri's character without knowing about his past or anything to him. He'd come to you as a sadistic, bloodlusted individual. But if you take into account the rest, you see that he is tormented and stuff.
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Just saying. Judging Edelgard without knowledge of her route is no better than judging Rhea by Crimson Flower alone. You can criticize one without criticizing the other. You need all perspectives to judge a character in this game.
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so you really don't know the concept of "whole" .i know her backstory, played her route but i will still judge her based on what she does in all of them.
She act as a heartless tyrant in 3 routes , killing any and everyone in her path and is ready to do anything to achieve victory
She act a bit more chill in her own route , try to reduce casualities and stuff but still start a war , still slaughter thousands upon thousands , still ally with and profit from TWSITD etc...
yeah , dimitri post time skip have gone crazy and will kill anyone in his path in his murder quest for edelgard and i would not hesitate to put him down if he come for me or my childrens.But i would still empathize with him way more as he is just another victim of edelgard's bullshit .
Knowing her backstory doesn't change anything ,whether i know it or not ,she still does mostly the same things and have the same goals in all of the routes.
i played her route in second , guess what , it didn't do much to better my opinion of her , it even have worsened it with how stupid , hasty and hypocritical she was in it .
What , should i change my opinion of her because she make sad faces T-T while beheading her chilhood friend ? she could behead him while laughing her ass off , it still didn't change the fact that she murdered him without mercy nor gave him a chance at redition or planned his assassination 5 years prior.Even murder hobo Dimitri offer her two chances in the BL route.She straight up refuse the first and actually tried to kill dimitri when he offered mercy.
" bu-but my sad backstory" Lysithea have gone through the same experiments as edelgard, her siblings also died horrible and painfull death and suffer an even worse fate because of her reduced lifespan. But strangely enough, she doesn't want to f*ck the whole continent over like edelgard, she just want to secure a good life for her parents at her calmest and destroy TWSITD at her worse .Because she isn't a bad person , unlike edelgard .
She act as a heartless tyrant in 3 routes , killing any and everyone in her path and is ready to do anything to achieve victory
She act a bit more chill in her own route , try to reduce casualities and stuff but still start a war , still slaughter thousands upon thousands , still ally with and profit from TWSITD etc...
yeah , dimitri post time skip have gone crazy and will kill anyone in his path in his murder quest for edelgard and i would not hesitate to put him down if he come for me or my childrens.But i would still empathize with him way more as he is just another victim of edelgard's bullshit .
Knowing her backstory doesn't change anything ,whether i know it or not ,she still does mostly the same things and have the same goals in all of the routes.
i played her route in second , guess what , it didn't do much to better my opinion of her , it even have worsened it with how stupid , hasty and hypocritical she was in it .
What , should i change my opinion of her because she make sad faces T-T while beheading her chilhood friend ? she could behead him while laughing her ass off , it still didn't change the fact that she murdered him without mercy nor gave him a chance at redition or planned his assassination 5 years prior.Even murder hobo Dimitri offer her two chances in the BL route.She straight up refuse the first and actually tried to kill dimitri when he offered mercy.
" bu-but my sad backstory" Lysithea have gone through the same experiments as edelgard, her siblings also died horrible and painfull death and suffer an even worse fate because of her reduced lifespan. But strangely enough, she doesn't want to f*ck the whole continent over like edelgard, she just want to secure a good life for her parents at her calmest and destroy TWSITD at her worse .Because she isn't a bad person , unlike edelgard .
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Okay, just got back from work, and a lot of posts. I know the typical debate between Rhea and Edelgard, but I once again heard Ted Ed was trolling.
You do realize Three Houses has a bunch of feats as well as Bolganone and Meteor; which are already calculated at 8-A and 7-C respectively. Catherine's Thunderbrand can shatter mountains. There's plenty of storm feats that often get Low 7-B results at minimum. And Javelins of Light should get really great results; just need a proper calculation.
Last but not the least, Sothis at her peak is Low 2-C.
You do realize Three Houses has a bunch of feats as well as Bolganone and Meteor; which are already calculated at 8-A and 7-C respectively. Catherine's Thunderbrand can shatter mountains. There's plenty of storm feats that often get Low 7-B results at minimum. And Javelins of Light should get really great results; just need a proper calculation.
Last but not the least, Sothis at her peak is Low 2-C.
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The funny thing is that I didnt know that Edelgard killed Dimitri in such a way until I looked it up. In my run Dimitri died in Dedue's arms. In peace.
For instance, Edelgard is the lord I like the least due to some of the reasons you listed.
But let's just agree to disagree.
For instance, Edelgard is the lord I like the least due to some of the reasons you listed.
But let's just agree to disagree.
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I don't even remember Edelgard mocking Dimitri, I actually recalled her being sympathetic towards killing Dimitri. He may have complemented him for his strength, but she wasn't happy about killing anyone like what people seem to imply whenever I here the term "mocked". El was once again, someone living a lie.
And oh yeah, Lysithea was great in Black Eagles and I like how they gave you the option to recruit her.
And oh yeah, Lysithea was great in Black Eagles and I like how they gave you the option to recruit her.
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Funny thing that you mentioned Lysithea when she is the only character in Crimson flower (or the whole game) that you can recruit post time skip. Ignoring Gilbert and Lorenz because 1 is locked to that route and the other needs to be recruited prior iirc.
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Also, I found this video
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Would have been amazing if Claude joined on the true Black Eagles route.
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i'm not saying she mocked dimitri when she killed him , i'm saying that it make no difference to me that she made sad faces while doing it .
she could have put on any other kind of expressions on her face while doing it , it doesn't change the fact that she still did it with no mercy or planned his assasination ( along other students) 5 years prior .
But what is even more mind boggling is that you are given the choice to kill or spare claude , pretty much a nobody in edelgard's eyes, with no emotional conection to her, but she kill without mercy her childhood friend ?
What kind of sick and twisted mind to you need to do that ? Both are generals of forces that oppose her so it really really doesn't make sense to me .
i understand her goals and why she want to achieve those goals but i really don't understand even 10% of her actions to reach said goals.
Why do she consider war , assasination and allying herself with evil incarnate as a first action when she didn't even TRIED anything else ?
she could have put on any other kind of expressions on her face while doing it , it doesn't change the fact that she still did it with no mercy or planned his assasination ( along other students) 5 years prior .
But what is even more mind boggling is that you are given the choice to kill or spare claude , pretty much a nobody in edelgard's eyes, with no emotional conection to her, but she kill without mercy her childhood friend ?
What kind of sick and twisted mind to you need to do that ? Both are generals of forces that oppose her so it really really doesn't make sense to me .
i understand her goals and why she want to achieve those goals but i really don't understand even 10% of her actions to reach said goals.
Why do she consider war , assasination and allying herself with evil incarnate as a first action when she didn't even TRIED anything else ?
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https://youtu.be/rOnAe4dCrGY It seems to me that Edelgard killed Dimitri instead of imprisoning him because she thought she would be doing him a favor, which is still morally wrong in my opinion.
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I still like Edelgard due to her complex personality and as an overpowered Unit. I know she's the edgy anti-heroine and that her own route is watered down, but her writing as a character is still excellent regardless. Despite the execution of her writing, I wouldn't quite consider her as likable as Claude and his laid back nice guy persona; and having the best route. But I do think I prefer her as a character over Dimitri. Whom I also consider amazing as well, but it takes more than a meme to get higher on the list.
I agree that Sothis is #1 though.
I agree that Sothis is #1 though.
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I didnt mean to rank edelgard much lower, probably upper rank A.
Sothis should make it to rank S easily imo.
Best route is Blue Lions bruh.
Psycho dimitri best character. Dimitri, unlike both Edelgard and Claude, has actual character development.
Sothis should make it to rank S easily imo.
Best route is Blue Lions bruh.
Psycho dimitri best character. Dimitri, unlike both Edelgard and Claude, has actual character development.
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"Kill every last one of them!" Also, Female Byleth > Male Byleth for obvious reasons.
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Male Byleth>Female Byleth
Yeah, come at me, self insert makes me biased, being a Waifu does not make you better
Yeah, come at me, self insert makes me biased, being a Waifu does not make you better
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How can someone like female byleth and those disgusting thights design ?
If it weren't for that it would be pretty close.
If it weren't for that it would be pretty close.
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I personally think both male and female Byleth look pretty cool, but the only thing that makes me like male Byleth more is the eyes. They do a very good job at portraying his deadpan personality. But female Byleth's eyes and her expression throw me off a little sometimes.
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