[FINALS] Asuna Kamakura & Javen vs Laser Frogman and Dr. Hecate [0-0-0]

[Fernaine]

I can’t believe yall, you voted even without a hint of a final response from us. Stage 4 frogman has yet to reveal his greatest moves and froggy has a response to the main voting points he was going to post tomorrow. Guess nothing matters now but this is a disastrous way to end this tourney, i was taking a break and disabled all my notifications because of how stressed I was lately, so imagine my shock when I’m told Asuna and Javen have 6 votes out of nowhere while waiting for froggy to post. Did no one think it was a little weird I wasn’t answering anything when I usually always do?? Come on man… I feel betrayed.

I'm fairly new here, and I did not know that was the case, so when I was asked to vote in this thread, I based myself on what information I had at the time. I'm sorry if that's truly the case.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

As per the rules, the tournament is officially over, so revoking the vote now doesn't really matter.

I was under the impression that FC/OC matches also have a Grace period, no?

 

[SSB64]

I was under the impression that FC/OC matches also have a Grace period, no?

GRACE if it's a 3 point advantage. The moment it hits 4 or above (Which it did, and even hit as high as 6), GRACE no longer applies.

 

[Rayfire]

GRACE if it's a 3 point advantage. The moment it hits 4 or above (Which it did, and even hit as high as 6), GRACE no longer applies.

I've heard from minty that it was never really a written rule. In fact i can't find it on the versus thread rules of fc/oc at all. Still, i think it's down to vene if he wants to pull out or not

 

[SSB64]

I've heard from minty that it was never really a written rule. In fact i can't find it on the versus thread rules of fc/oc at all. Still, i think it's down to vene if he wants to pull out or not

If it isn't a written rule, then why would votes ever matter towards who wins a matchup?

 

[Rayfire]

If it isn't a written rule, then why would votes ever matter towards who wins a matchup?

The grace period thing is in question lol, i'm pretty sure it's only ever applicable if everyone participating in a thread completely agrees with the outcome, then i feel that'd be grounds to add it immediately, but vene obviously doesn't so i don't we should yet.

 

[SSB64]

The grace period thing is in question lol, i'm pretty sure it's only ever applicable if everyone participating in a thread completely agrees with the outcome, then i feel that'd be grounds to add it immediately, but vene obviously doesn't so i don't we should yet.

If we go by that logic, then if Asunaven are to win, and I was the only one who denied it, then it couldn't be added because of my single opinion.

 

[MintyBoi1]

I jumped the gun, I saw everyone voting and was certain that both teams agreed on a result. I will retract my vote until arguments are done. Also Grace requires at least 3 votes and 3 vote difference between both sides as said in the rules. Not sure how many we’re at now, but there’s always the 24 hour grace period in case more arguments are made or more people vote.

 

[Rayfire]

If we go by that logic, then if Asunaven are to win, and I was the only one who denied it, then it couldn't be added because of my single opinion.

Within 24 hours i mean, since that's grace period

Either way i think the most respectable option is to just not add the matches if nothing happens after 24 hours

 

[SSB64]

Within 24 hours i mean, since that's grace period

Either way i think the most respectable option is to just not add the matches if nothing happens after 24 hours

Then how come matches on the Wiki are almost immediately added when it's more than a 3 vote advantage even when it's divisive and not everyone agrees?

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

Then how come matches on the Wiki are almost immediately added when it's more than a 3 vote advantage even when it's divisive and not everyone agrees?

The difference is that those fights finished, meanwhile here, votes were cast blatantly before everything had been gone through and without providing us the chance to respond

 

[SSB64]

The difference is that those fights finished, meanwhile here, votes were cast blatantly before everything had been gone through and without providing us the chance to respond

Is that part of the written rules, where everything must be skimmed through before people can vote?

 

[MintyBoi1]

Is that part of the written rules, where everything must be skimmed through before people can vote?

I think it’s a good idea to get a fully explored result before finishing this. Not just for grace period but for accuracy

 

[SSB64]

I think it’s a good idea to get a fully explored result before finishing this. Not just for grace period but for accuracy

Just because it's a good idea doesn't mean it's a written rule that it has to be that way. If we're being consistent with what is rules and what isn't, then this Tourney would already be finished.

 

[MintyBoi1]

Just because it's a good idea doesn't mean it's a written rule that it has to be that way. If we're being consistent with what is rules and what isn't, then this Tourney would already be finished.

Grace period rules are written here. 4+ votes automatically ending a thread isn’t a rule.

 

[SSB64]

Grace period rules are written here. 4+ votes automatically ending a thread isn’t a rule.

Then how come literally everytime I've seen 4+ votes, it automatically ends a thread?

 

[MintyBoi1]

Then how come literally everytime I've seen 4+ votes, it automatically ends a thread?

Seems like either there was time between things being added to profiles or it was genuinely a mistake. You can wait for grace period to end and acknowledge there’s not many more arguments to make. I have with plenty of results. Either way, rules are rules and it’s not cool to end the tournament without hearing out both side’s arguments.

 

[SSB64]

Seems like either there was time between things being added to profiles or it was genuinely a mistake. .

Then in that case, we're going to need to do a massive overhaul of this Wiki to weed out the mistakes made, again, in order to be consistent with what you're saying.

 

[Rayfire]

Either way, vene has said froggy apparently still has arguments, so if froggy says something before grace period ends i think i'll keep going with him and see what happens then, but i feel like adding the matchup, at least to asuna's profile, would be pretty scummy of me if froggy and vene believe it to be unfair (I still think asuven wins, but i think vene at least deserves some respect in this regard lol) but now that i'm aware that the intent from vene wasn't to vote in page 4 i think the most important thing is to see what froggy does before grace ends and we'll go from there, otherwise the win will go through

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

As promised, I humbly apologize for everything I said regarding this subject. If I was a nuisance to everyone, then I apologize for that too.

You apologized but as soon as I’m back you continue to do this, literally I’m saying this result was well premature. Froggy told me in dms to take a break the rest of the day and that he’d respond tomorrow

But I really don’t care anymore, I’m sick and tired of the forum and matches as whole right now, I have been for some time. I need a freaking break. Froggy is still gonna post tomorrow and we’ll see what happens with that, but seriously either way this thread became a disaster and I’m still in shock that votes were cast and just the way this proceeded at the end. I feel betrayed and disrespected about all of this (my stress has been clearly ignored) but all you care about is frogate being given the L. At this point just do what you want, if I continue with this the anger is going to come out.

 

[Rayfire]

You apologized but as soon as I’m back you continue to do this, literally I’m saying this result was well premature. Froggy told me in dms to take a break the rest of the day and that he’d respond tomorrow

But I really don’t care anymore, I’m sick and tired of the forum and matches as whole right now, I have been for some time. I need a freaking break. Froggy is still gonna post tomorrow and we’ll see what happens with that, but seriously either way this thread became a disaster and I’m still in shock that votes were cast and just the way this proceeded at the end. I feel betrayed and disrespected about all of this (my stress has been clearly ignored) but all you care about is frogate being given the L. At this point just do what you want, if I continue with this the anger is going to come out.

It's on me again dude, i didn't know you weren't able to reply to args and i thought it was time to vote from how page 4 went I won't add the match when this is over if asuven win and you are unhappy with it, but i do think taking a break from the forum is a good idea if you're starting to let off steam. It's hard on all of us lol

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

It's on me again dude, i didn't know you weren't able to reply to args and i thought it was time to vote from how page 4 went I won't add the match when this is over if asuven win and you are unhappy with it, but i do think taking a break from the forum is a good idea if you're starting to let off steam. It's hard on all of us lol

I guess it comes down to whether or not what froggy says changes things.

 

[Rayfire]

I guess it comes down to whether or not what froggy says changes things.

In which case I’ll definitely make a rebuttal and see what everyone thinks then. We have plenty of time in grace for froggy to do this If you feel the need to take a break from the forum you should definitely do it dude. You’ve been fighting just as hard as me lol

 

[Javenplayz253]

I can’t believe yall, you voted even without a hint of a final response from us. Stage 4 frogman has yet to reveal his greatest moves and froggy has a response to the main voting points he was going to post tomorrow. Guess nothing matters now but this is a disastrous way to end this tourney, i was taking a break and disabled all my notifications because of how stressed I was lately, so imagine my shock when I’m told Asuna and Javen have 6 votes out of nowhere while waiting for froggy to post. Did no one think it was a little weird I wasn’t answering anything when I usually always do?? Come on man… I feel betrayed.

Sorry dude, like genuinely.
I'll take away my vote and let froggy reply