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Final NNT Thread - Part 1

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speedster352 said:
Why not? He and Zeldris one-shotted a person that can survive her own FC attack with no damage
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As I explained, it was with a weapon that has shown to multiply Meliodas' attacks even more than Full Counters.

Not only that, but it was alongside Zeldris, she'd taken prior damage, and both of them collapsed from the effort.

We've gone over this particular issue before.
 
ByAsura said:
As I explained, it was with a weapon that has shown to multiply Meliodas' attacks even more than Full Counters.

Not only that, but it was alongside Zeldris, she'd taken prior damage, and both of them collapsed from the effort.

We've gone over this particular issue before.
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It can still be used for scaling you said that yourself. If a character can survive FC and someone one-shots them that means they are 2x stronger
 
speedster352 said:
It can still be used for scaling you said that yourself.
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The scaling has to be valid to begin with.
speedster352 said:
If a character can survive FC and someone one-shots them that means they are 2x stronger
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Great, that just means the combination of Zeldris + Meliodas with Lostvayne and their greatest effort scale 2x.
Majinere566 said:
I'm pretty sure the novel also states that merlin amped the attack
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Do you have evidence for this? I don't have access to the novel.
 
ByAsura said:
The scaling has to be valid to begin with.

Great, that just means the combination of Zeldris + Meliodas with Lostvayne and their greatest effort scale 2x.

Do you have evidence for this? I don't have access to the novel.
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That's just second demon mark Meliodas also has assualt mode
 
You'd have to prove weaponless Assault Mode is stronger than their combo for that to matter.
 
ByAsura said:
3x was debunked in the last thread. The FC multiplier is also lower.

Ominous Bind, a form of Ominous Nebula, only paralysed her and wouldn't hold for too long.
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Zeldris ap is higher with omnious nebula. And Meliodas ap os higher with assault mode
 
None of which justify this 2.5 times gap.

Also, the point I was trying to make is that it's probably closer to just 2 given how it's low-balled to that value in-universe.
 
ByAsura said:
None of which justify this 2.5 times gap.

Also, the point I was trying to make is that it's probably closer to just 2 given how it's low-balled to that value in-universe.
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Speaking of which how many sandboxes have you finished? Also majin made 3
 
I'm not doing entire profiles, just scaling chains.

I've completely the first and second chain, but there's a few more.
 
I just look up the Japanese kanji of the Seven Deadly Sins series (七つの大罪) and raw. Make sure to put quotations around both words, but individually ("七つの大罪" "raw").
 
ByAsura said:
Zeldris Cursed By Light Key
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This is common sense, so agreed.
ByAsura said:
Goddess Amps
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2x adds up

ByAsura said:
2nd Demon Mark
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The first link here is broken. Video got copyrighted.

ByAsura said:
True Magic and Assault Mode
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Meliodas had to sacrifice his true magic to destroy the commandments, which make up half of the DK's power.
ByAsura said:
Speaking of which, Post-Training Diane with Gideon is 510.198489484 Megatons (Mountain level)
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Diane could probably upscale to 550 Megatons due to one shotting said Albion
ByAsura said:
Tarmiel AP Scaling
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This looks good
ByAsura said:
Speed Scaling
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This is fine as long as Ludo is actually using Flash against Zeldris.
 
Steve_Rogers1 said:
The first link here is broken. Video got copyrighted.
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Here. Sorry it's an AMV, but that's the only source I could get.
Steve_Rogers1 said:
Meliodas had to sacrifice his true magic to destroy the commandments, which make up half of the DK's power.
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I know, but people have a really hard time with Meliodas just being superior to 50% DK. So I thought I'd just save myself the trouble and say we keep it ambiguous.
Steve_Rogers1 said:
Diane could probably upscale to 550 Megatons due to one shotting said Albion
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Seems fine, tbh. I'll have to see what others think.
 
speedster352 said:
I think the commandments should be optional equipment for the demon just like the keyword is for Xeno characters
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ByAsura said:
Here. Sorry it's an AMV, but that's the only source I could get.

I know, but people have a really hard time with Meliodas just being superior to 50% DK. So I thought I'd just save myself the trouble and say we keep it ambiguous.

Seems fine, tbh. I'll have to see what others think.
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I agree with the Diane scaling and SD surviving her FC attack
 
Steve_Rogers1 said:
This is common sense, so agreed.

2x adds up


The first link here is broken. Video got copyrighted.


Meliodas had to sacrifice his true magic to destroy the commandments, which make up half of the DK's power.

Diane could probably upscale to 550 Megatons due to one shotting said Albion

This looks good

This is fine as long as Ludo is actually using Flash against Zeldris.
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That one anti feat again?
 
speedster352 said:
Well if it help for will propose a discussion rule after this
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Discussion rules are used for when frequent CRTs are made on a topic that bring up the same debunked arguments over and over again. True Magic Mel scaling is not one of those cases. If it really has been addressed, then why wouldn't you link the thread instead of trying to deflect? You have so far failed to fulfill your burden of rejoinder and brought no actual evidence as to why I am wrong.
 
Steve_Rogers1 said:
Discussion rules are used for when frequent CRTs are made on a topic that bring up the same debunked arguments over and over again. True Magic Mel scaling is not one of those cases. If it really has been addressed, then why wouldn't you link the thread instead of trying to deflect? You have so far failed to fulfill your burden of rejoinder and brought no actual evidence as to why I am wrong.
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I don’t care about your opinion okay. It’s been addressed on this thread. I will not hear another word of it and also don’t ping me.
 
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