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Is there anything else that needs to be addressed on this thread?It's not a weakness. I'll just put it under a note, or something.
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Is there anything else that needs to be addressed on this thread?It's not a weakness. I'll just put it under a note, or something.
Why not? He and Zeldris one-shotted a person that can survive her own FC attack with no damageIt wouldn't change.
I don't think he'd get another key.
As I explained, it was with a weapon that has shown to multiply Meliodas' attacks even more than Full Counters.Why not? He and Zeldris one-shotted a person that can survive her own FC attack with no damage
It can still be used for scaling you said that yourself. If a character can survive FC and someone one-shots them that means they are 2x strongerAs I explained, it was with a weapon that has shown to multiply Meliodas' attacks even more than Full Counters.
Not only that, but it was alongside Zeldris, she'd taken prior damage, and both of them collapsed from the effort.
We've gone over this particular issue before.
The scaling has to be valid to begin with.It can still be used for scaling you said that yourself.
Great, that just means the combination of Zeldris + Meliodas with Lostvayne and their greatest effort scale 2x.If a character can survive FC and someone one-shots them that means they are 2x stronger
Do you have evidence for this? I don't have access to the novel.I'm pretty sure the novel also states that merlin amped the attack
That's just second demon mark Meliodas also has assualt modeThe scaling has to be valid to begin with.
Great, that just means the combination of Zeldris + Meliodas with Lostvayne and their greatest effort scale 2x.
Do you have evidence for this? I don't have access to the novel.
Zeldris also has omnious nebula and night ampsYou'd have to prove weaponless Assault Mode is stronger than their combo for that to matter.
Ominous Bind, a form of Ominous Nebula, only paralysed her and wouldn't hold for too long.Zeldris also has omnious nebula and night amps
Zeldris ap is higher with omnious nebula. And Meliodas ap os higher with assault mode3x was debunked in the last thread. The FC multiplier is also lower.
Ominous Bind, a form of Ominous Nebula, only paralysed her and wouldn't hold for too long.
2.5 time seems to be the saffest bet
I'll ask a guy that has the novelDo you have evidence for this? I don't have access to the novel.
We decided 2x was the safest bet. It's stated once by Merlin to just double attacks, and we don't make up numbers.2.5 time seems to be the saffest bet
Yeah but there are like 5 scans saying more than double but sure I guessWe decided 2x was the safest bet. It's stated once by Merlin to just double attacks, and we don't make up numbers.
Speaking of which how many sandboxes have you finished? Also majin made 3None of which justify this 2.5 times gap.
Also, the point I was trying to make is that it's probably closer to just 2 given how it's low-balled to that value in-universe.
Where do you get those raw japanese texts? where is that raw manga?
This is common sense, so agreed.Zeldris Cursed By Light Key
2x adds upGoddess Amps
The first link here is broken. Video got copyrighted.2nd Demon Mark
Meliodas had to sacrifice his true magic to destroy the commandments, which make up half of the DK's power.True Magic and Assault Mode
Diane could probably upscale to 550 Megatons due to one shotting said AlbionSpeaking of which, Post-Training Diane with Gideon is 510.198489484 Megatons (Mountain level)
This looks goodTarmiel AP Scaling
This is fine as long as Ludo is actually using Flash against Zeldris.Speed Scaling
Here. Sorry it's an AMV, but that's the only source I could get.The first link here is broken. Video got copyrighted.
I know, but people have a really hard time with Meliodas just being superior to 50% DK. So I thought I'd just save myself the trouble and say we keep it ambiguous.Meliodas had to sacrifice his true magic to destroy the commandments, which make up half of the DK's power.
Seems fine, tbh. I'll have to see what others think.Diane could probably upscale to 550 Megatons due to one shotting said Albion
I think the commandments should be optional equipment for the demon just like the keyword is for Xeno characters
I agree with the Diane scaling and SD surviving her FC attackHere. Sorry it's an AMV, but that's the only source I could get.
I know, but people have a really hard time with Meliodas just being superior to 50% DK. So I thought I'd just save myself the trouble and say we keep it ambiguous.
Seems fine, tbh. I'll have to see what others think.
That one anti feat again?This is common sense, so agreed.
2x adds up
The first link here is broken. Video got copyrighted.
Meliodas had to sacrifice his true magic to destroy the commandments, which make up half of the DK's power.
Diane could probably upscale to 550 Megatons due to one shotting said Albion
This looks good
This is fine as long as Ludo is actually using Flash against Zeldris.
Try and rebut itThat one anti feat again?
There is no need it has been addressedTry and rebut it
Not an argumentThere is no need it has been addressed
Well if it help for will propose a discussion rule after thisNot an argument
Discussion rules are used for when frequent CRTs are made on a topic that bring up the same debunked arguments over and over again. True Magic Mel scaling is not one of those cases. If it really has been addressed, then why wouldn't you link the thread instead of trying to deflect? You have so far failed to fulfill your burden of rejoinder and brought no actual evidence as to why I am wrong.Well if it help for will propose a discussion rule after this
I don’t care about your opinion okay. It’s been addressed on this thread. I will not hear another word of it and also don’t ping me.Discussion rules are used for when frequent CRTs are made on a topic that bring up the same debunked arguments over and over again. True Magic Mel scaling is not one of those cases. If it really has been addressed, then why wouldn't you link the thread instead of trying to deflect? You have so far failed to fulfill your burden of rejoinder and brought no actual evidence as to why I am wrong.
Why did you respond then?I don’t care about your opinion okay.
No, it wasn't. You're just flat out lying now.It’s been addressed on this thread.
You have no room to talk, pinging me first and all.I will not hear another word of it and also don’t ping me.
And I've addressed your counter arguments many times.There is no need it has been addressed
Seriously? You addressed this on your own thread. Let's leave it at that.And I've addressed your counter arguments many times.