speedster352
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Just Zeldris should be listed as likely or possibly higher and if DK scales above constructs he should be faster than 2nd demon mark Zeldris with or without ON
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Final NNT Thread - Part 1
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thetechmaster36
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I agree with this, nice job Asura.
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I don't see why. DK Meliodas outright one-shots him right after this fight.
Why's he faster than ON, though? ON has absolutely no speed comparisons to anyone except Ludoshel, one-shot a construct, and the construct could just have exceptionally high combat speed to have kept up with Zeldris' swordsmanship.
Either way, if this scaling is accepted, DK would be faster than ON regardless.
Why's he faster than ON, though? ON has absolutely no speed comparisons to anyone except Ludoshel, one-shot a construct, and the construct could just have exceptionally high combat speed to have kept up with Zeldris' swordsmanship.
Either way, if this scaling is accepted, DK would be faster than ON regardless.
speedster352
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So how strong and fast would movie Zeldris be with the new scaling?
speedster352
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And holy war time Zeldris?
speedster352
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But you said that the movie Zeldris was stronger and lost a few abilities
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Where does current AM Mel scale?
speedster352
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You forgot about god and his commandment
speedster352
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I meant holy war time Zeldris he prime form should be 3000 years ago or during the fight against Meliodas.
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Most of the AP stuff looks fine, good work ByAsura
But I'm not sure Zeldris' Demon Mark necessarily doubles his power anymore since all that's mentioned is the velocity of Ominous Nebula that's being doubled, so maybe that's just about speed? Then again, the speed of Ominous Nebula means it hits harder, so... Hmmmm, not sure about his Demon Mark being a strict 2x Multiplier to raw attack power anymore
As for speed, I'm not sure about Vessel Forms and combined individuals being 2x their previous speed, 2x the power yeah, but not 2x the speed
Totally gonna be hated for this
But I'm not sure Zeldris' Demon Mark necessarily doubles his power anymore since all that's mentioned is the velocity of Ominous Nebula that's being doubled, so maybe that's just about speed? Then again, the speed of Ominous Nebula means it hits harder, so... Hmmmm, not sure about his Demon Mark being a strict 2x Multiplier to raw attack power anymore
As for speed, I'm not sure about Vessel Forms and combined individuals being 2x their previous speed, 2x the power yeah, but not 2x the speed
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hm but the demon marks boosts all stats at least 2x. When the One tried to break the nebula, Zeldris had to struggle and go even faster. I am sure that was more than 2x
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Considering that the archangles are at small country, where does "the feared demon"Meliodas from 3000 years ago scale?
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Prime 2nd Demon Mark scales to Mael.
I wasn’t too sure either, but we agreed on it via 1st Demon Marks having a 2x multiplier.
Ludoshel was intercepting Chandler + Cusack with just telekinesis, so I think a 2x speed multiplier is still reasonable. I believe Vessel Ludo scale to them without Flash, as she could keep up with Zeldris and Escanor.
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Eh, that's fine then, I won't be too nitpicky about it, you can also argue the since Ominous Nebula is based on speed becoming power, that doubling it's speed will also end up doubling the power
Combining with another individual doesn't guarantee double speed, only power
Since speed and power increases are not always linear
speedster352
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What do you mean? Explain?
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Cause if I combined my power with someone else, it doesn't mean I'm combining our speeds
Like it would explicitly need to be mentioned they're adding their speeds together
speedster352
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Do we all agree with the upgrade? After we agree on the upgrade we can talk about scaling after.
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Basically, moving a mass at twice the speed requires 4x the energy.
Like I said, KE is a thing, but your interpretation is incorrect. They’re not adding just their power together, it’s combining their physical forms, so they’re adding everything.
Rabbit2002
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Demon Meliodas means Demon Mark 3?
speedster352
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Moving what?
speedster352
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So what's the scaling for eos sins?
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I’ve already given the scaling in the OP.
Let’s say you have a 1 kg ball. Moving it at 10 m/s will generate 50 joules, but moving it at 20 m/s generates 200 joules.
Any mass at all.
Let’s say you have a 1 kg ball. Moving it at 10 m/s will generate 50 joules, but moving it at 20 m/s generates 200 joules.
speedster352
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But what did Hendrickson move? Or are you using an example?
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It’s an example. Basically, doubling your energy output (which speed is based on) won’t double your speed, unless the author says it does.
speedster352
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Okay, so when you see mine and rabbit's crt and make part 2 give me a head's up.
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What about Base Monspeet blowing multiple holes in Tarmiel's Head shouldn't he get a Small Country Rating
speedster352
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And galand blitzing bisecting tarmiel and surviving attacks from him
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Pretty sure that’s just Tarmiel being somewhat of a glass-cannon to specific attacks, unless you want to say base Galand is equal for splitting him in half.
Even in their vessels, Tarmiel and Sariel dealt with two forms of Estarossa that were stronger than Monspeet.
Even in their vessels, Tarmiel and Sariel dealt with two forms of Estarossa that were stronger than Monspeet.
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I really don't like the Galand Feat, he was Off gaurd but probably semi liquefied before galand cut him
As for Monspeet I'm pretty sure it was a normal attack that went through Tarmiel head before getting cut up by Sariel
As for Monspeet I'm pretty sure it was a normal attack that went through Tarmiel head before getting cut up by Sariel
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