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Fate Series - High Tier Character Max Speed Rating (CCC)
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Get some mods to review this so it can get added. It's just 3 characters.
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3 Characters would be BB, Gil, and Amaterasu?
What about other CCC Playables?
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They lack feats. Don't know about Tiamat or Goetia, but those three are pretty much it.
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I believe that Goetia and Solomon should also have infinite speed, after all the Temple of Time is said to exist out of time several times, even cited for not having a concept of time.
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That would require every Servant and the protagonist to have Infinite Speed, so that's a no.
And I do believe we already argued it above.
And I do believe we already argued it above.
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I think the answer is pretty simple. The temple of time may exist outside of time but it is also an artificial space time and universe, so we can get by without giving it to everyone who has moved in the temple of time. On the other hand, Solomon and Goetia were able to move in imaginary numbers space without the thing being created since they built the thing. If you wanna go another route, it's a massive ******* outlier for all the servants to be infinite speed, but it isn't for Grand Servant Solomon or Goetia to be able to do it
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I'm pretty sure the CCC Playables keeping up with BB is the feat they'd need?
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Nowhere in my comment did I propose that all servants should have infinite speed.Iapitus The Impaler said:
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I know, I was supporting your argument. I was more addressing Lance's concerns. I was explaining why your argument makes sense in a way that doesn't scale to all servants
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Desperate bump at this point so we can resolve this.
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I agree
So, who will be updated?
So, who will be updated?
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Amaterasu, Gilgamesh and BB. Probably Goetia as well and maybe Tiamat, but not sure.
I think we imposed a pretty strict criteria so that we don't get outliers.
I think we imposed a pretty strict criteria so that we don't get outliers.
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Did you forget about Solomon.
As for Tiamat, she on her profile, makes PS for Gilgamesh and Enkidu at their peak, so maybe?
Btw, if this is applied, some profiles will have to have their justifications changed, for example King Hassa does PS with Tiamat, Quetzalcoatl with Gilgamesh and Enkidu, and etc.
As for Tiamat, she on her profile, makes PS for Gilgamesh and Enkidu at their peak, so maybe?
Btw, if this is applied, some profiles will have to have their justifications changed, for example King Hassa does PS with Tiamat, Quetzalcoatl with Gilgamesh and Enkidu, and etc.
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I agree.
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We gotta change some justifications for MFTL+ people too then.
Cuz there are people who scale to Living Gil (which honestly shouldn't have Infinite Speed, as he's not Ten Crowns Gil)
Cuz there are people who scale to Living Gil (which honestly shouldn't have Infinite Speed, as he's not Ten Crowns Gil)
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I agree with this. It shouldn't be scaled.
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It's just Power of Origin Gil. Ten Crowns has loads of names, like Domina Cro/Cornam, Ten Crowns of Rulership, BB's Staff thingyMakkurona said:
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The wording and the context implies he received Ten Crowns before his Mythic Code was activated. I personally was sceptical at the time as well, but I did a detailed analysis in the revision thread where this was discussed which made me change my mind.
So, I believe living Gilgamesh and thus Enkidu shouldn't scale to CCC Gilgamesh when it comes to speed. I forgot to mention Solomon, but if Goetia is gettting this then he should as well. Should Tiamat get infinite as well and would that cause scaling problems due to scaling someone like Hassan and Quetz, as stated above.
So, I believe living Gilgamesh and thus Enkidu shouldn't scale to CCC Gilgamesh when it comes to speed. I forgot to mention Solomon, but if Goetia is gettting this then he should as well. Should Tiamat get infinite as well and would that cause scaling problems due to scaling someone like Hassan and Quetz, as stated above.
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Tiamat can still scale to Beast III/R, who scales to Kiara and the crossing Horsehead Nebula feat, and Beast III/L travelling across a universe, so there's the new speed scaling.
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Yes, and Kiara scales to Nero and Nameless who crossed 1500 light years. MFTL+ rating for those characters is still solid.
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So just change who they are scaled to
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Bump
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What are the conclusions here? You should preferably ask the staff members listed in the Nasuverse page and the Knowledgeable Members List to comment here in any case.
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DoneAntvasima said:
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Were the changes applied, and the justifications changed?
It's also a good idea to put a note on CCC BB's profile why other Playables don't scale to her.
It's also a good idea to put a note on CCC BB's profile why other Playables don't scale to her.
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I can do it now, but I need ideas for justification
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Enkidu: Should be comparable to Tiamat in her Pre-Dragonoid form
Tiamat: Should be superior to incomplete Beasts, such as Kama and Kiara
Kiara: Can fight with Hakuno's Servants
Gramps: Should be comparable to most Beasts, such as Tiamat
Tiamat: Should be superior to incomplete Beasts, such as Kama and Kiara
Kiara: Can fight with Hakuno's Servants
Gramps: Should be comparable to most Beasts, such as Tiamat
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Is there general agreement on these points?
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Beware that the next thing people are gonna ask, next to "Why Gilgamesh speed is not Infinite": "Why don't Kiara and other Playables scale to BB and Gil's Infinite speed?"
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Can someone give me a summary as to why only the CCC people scale to infinite? I don't have time to read the whole thread.
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Done, what about Quetzalcoatl?Diinou HotHead said:
About a why other Playables don't scale with BB and Gilgamesh, it's best to add to profiles when upgrade them.
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In addition to them, Goetia and Solomon will also receiveCrimsonStarFallen said:
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If it's only the top-tiers of CCC + Solomon/Goetia getting infinite speed, it seems fine. As long as other Servants don't scale to them, everything seems to be fairly consistent and logical.
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This looks fine to me.
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The part you quoted were agreed, and applied.
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