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He repeatedly says that the entire world will crumble away and a new world will take its place, indicating he's actually destroying the entire thing and then creating a new world up to 400 years in the past
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Fairy Tail: Neo Eclipse, Two Years Later
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I think l2c is sufficient and anything more would be an exaggeration.
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Zeinx1
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I will not defend 2a for now (it may be possible in another CRT) I think it is 2c, the situation in cosmology is suitable for this, it is not limited to the eclipse gate, here is the proof of this, what I said is not without proof: Timelines in the universe Zeref's deletion also affects these. If you look carefully, Zeref takes scale from the main timeline and events in the main timeline also affect other timelines.
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no, the resetting of time is used as a context, only the place where low 2c is taken is the destruction of the universe and the influence of spacetime
Zeinx1
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Well, still 2c makes sense.
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It is not right to discuss a different scale in a crt opened for another scale. After this crt, we can open a crt about this together.
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I'd like to not get into anything above Low 2-C, as none of that is what I'm proposing
Zeinx1
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I will take into account what you said, but I think it would be more logical to have 2C on this CRT.
Zeinx1
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Can we open 2c with you tomorrow?
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I think no it becomes difficult to find arguments that are already being used
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I don't agree with what you say
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why
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Could you two preferably take this discussion to a DM or something of the sort? I'd like for the thread to not be derailed by this
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I have read the manga and the whole world was not going to disappear rather just 400 years, the context was to go before natsu, not destroy everything alongside it. He did not say "I will remind time to the beginning and the whole world will crumble away" the context is "I will remind time 400 years back and the world will crumble away" so it was indeed just 400 years.
Also, to add to it, if we are to even agree the whole world will get destroyed if he rewinds 400 years back, that would not count as low 2-C as we have a standard that says
So at first like I said a feat like this is not direct creation or destruction so it should not even qualify for any AP, but if it will it will be H3A
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I've counted your vote, so I'll leave it at that
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No, Zeref says that Neo will reset time through the eclipse and destroy the existing universe in order to move to the universe belonging to the time he reset.
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If the mf is deleting entire snapshots of the universe's history then it's higher than 3-A. The cosmology ain't infinite in size so it can't be High 3-A
Maybe like a lower end of Low 2-C imo
Maybe like a lower end of Low 2-C imo
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Whenever yall try to quote me and support my point yall end up changing my view because what you just said didn't support tier 2 at all, just supported that there'd be a reset
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No, what I'm trying to say is that it's not the same as in the previous universe.
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I guess I can make a staff thread for it later if that’s cool.
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Low 2-C seems fine to me
Agreed
Agreed
PrinceofPein
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It's not about votes or not, mine do not count anyway. it's about the fact that it is not low 2-C regardless. Also like I quoted the standard
It should not be tierable at all
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I've already made my case for why it's Low 2-C. And this is a direct destruction feat so yes it should be tierable.
I'm not gonna go in circles on this matter. If you disagree, you disagree. Fair is fair
I'm not gonna go in circles on this matter. If you disagree, you disagree. Fair is fair
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A single point in time contains an infinite number of 3D snapshots so regardless of the cosmology's size, it'd be High 3-A through and through.
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I'll put you down for High 3-A then
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possibly Low 2-c is fine
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High 3-A works then
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Updated your vote
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I'd like to ask this in advance just to be sure, since the votes are pretty split atm
If this vote split continues, would a compromise of "High 3-A, possibly Low 2-C with Neo Eclipse" be acceptable?
If this vote split continues, would a compromise of "High 3-A, possibly Low 2-C with Neo Eclipse" be acceptable?
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I think it is more logical for people who accept high 3a and low 2-c to discuss this issue and make a joint decision.
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Mhmm but another point in time will also be infinite like KLOL says.
So, the difference between those two points is uncountable (cuz you can’t truly differentiate between one point and the other) hence why affecting two points in time (and all the points in time in between; 400 years worth) simultaneously is low 2-C. Because you’d also be affecting that difference connecting them, not two seperate points in time. Which is bigger than High 3-A. Ya know.
So if Zeref destroyed 400 years worth of time it’s Low 2-C, just not as powerful as those who destroy entire timelines.
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Wouldn't this be ED?
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Not really, no. Just a spell far beyond the potency of anything Zeref can manage himself
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I’m fine with that too
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I can agree to that.
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