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Dang, that’s actually valid as hell
Maybe Wendy will have to scale to 1/2 of the Calc
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Fairy Tail: Elentir Revisions
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Maybe Wendy will have to scale to 1/2 of the Calc
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This also isn't a good reason, as we might as well get rid of the Initial Keys of Dual element modes or third origin Sherria as they were both only one time powerups.
the limit break keys are only dependent on the amount of magic in the air not specifically Alta face as he was just the catalyst not the cause. Which is well within SBA rules for versus battles
Your forgetting that they couldn't release magic power at that time so her enchantment was no longer active.
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is...is that a good thing?Dang, that’s actually valid as hell
Maybe Wendy will have to scale to 1/2 of the Calc
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Yes they couldn't use magic but it didn't say it had nullified the already applied effects
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Honestly I am neutral on the Wendy scaling to the calc stuff and whether or not we need the Limit Break Key
I have no strong stance on this stuff
I have no strong stance on this stuff
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I think so? He is agreeing with you after all ………… then again it’s more likely a signal of the end times.
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Ragnarok, AKA the Dragon King’s Festival is coming
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More seriously tho, we know that losing access to magic makes these guys weak af so even if the Enchantment was still in effect, it’s either doubling their currently needed stats or it is their nerfed stats + their OG stats. Since having no access to magic makes Natsu go from fighting guys like Gajeel and Zancrow to not harming a frog thing (whatever the monster that Lucy Ashley bodied), whichever interpretation we go with will still result in Wendy tanking the blast.
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What anon said, Their bodies weren't able to output magic to the point where they couldn't move due to the overflow, their magic was being "suppressed" to zero. Which would still result in them being at best only their base stats thanks to the enchant.
Wendy should get at least High 7-A+, likely 6-C based on this.
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Again. All it said was that their magic was gone. It NEVER said that the effects was nullified as well. I could say the effects disappear after the blast hit them since the magic was already gone by then
Did it say that “Wendy’s enchantment is gone?” No, it’s just saying how they they now can’t use anything but never said anything about the already enchantment being in place unless Wendy has to keep using magic once she’s uses it which is unlikely given the fact that it was never said she has to keep applying magic for her power-up to stay up
Did it say that “Wendy’s enchantment is gone?” No, it’s just saying how they they now can’t use anything but never said anything about the already enchantment being in place unless Wendy has to keep using magic once she’s uses it which is unlikely given the fact that it was never said she has to keep applying magic for her power-up to stay up
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……. I addressed this already. Either they have their nerfed stats + their normal stats or they have double their nerfed stats. Since we know their stats with no magic = trash and makes them fodder to beings that they normally treat as fodder, at best they are only a hairs breadth above their normal level when they got hit with the blast so their normal stats scale anyway.
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Got to agree with anonymous here. When the characters have no magic they become extremely weak compared to how they are with magic. Even if wendy enchantment lasted they would still be fodder and at best 2x stronger then they normally be. Which would still be fodder. So Wendy and the others tanking attacks in this state should scale to their normal stats
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Did you even read what I posted? The Enchantment is either x2 the nerfed stats or it added their normal stat to their nerfed one (as it was applied before they got overflowed) but their lack of magic makes them trash goobers whose stats are completely negligible so its essentially just their base stats tanking the blast. Let me put it in numbers since you don't seem to understand
Normal stats with magic = 100
No magic = 1
Enchantment = x2 or +X where X = normal stats
This means their stats when they took the blast is either 1*2=2 or 1+100=101
Either option means their normal selves can eat the blast without much issue
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Blacke ...... do you actually know what is going on in my example and explanation? The Enchantment is stacking their normal stats onto their nerfed stats in the best case scenario for your stance. Seeing as their actual stats got nerfed to absolute shit, they are only being protected by the Enchantment which keeps them at their base level of power. This means that their base stats scale to the blast. How are you not getting this when I explained it multiple times in multiple ways?
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So you know what the consensus is on the Enchantment she casts is rn? It is being assumed to be Deus Eques since that’s her go to Enchantment. DE doubled the stats of the target aka, adds their base stats to their base stats/doubles their base stats. This means that when the crew get overflowed, their actual base stats basically become nothing and that the only thing they would have is the Enchantment. The Enchantment that has already been established to only add their base stats in the best case scenario. The blast then hits them in this state while they essentially only have their normal level of stats and does barely anything, ergo their normal power scales.
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don't enchantments disappear when you're out of magic ? I don't remember any spells that stays active without magic power
Have we discarded Selene's feat or are we just waiting for the next few chapters ?
Have we discarded Selene's feat or are we just waiting for the next few chapters ?
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They don’t actually. When Wendy was fighting Doom, she was running on empty and used the last of her magic to Enchant the Fairy Fodders to defeat Doom. Even after using all of her magic, the effect was still applied.
Waiting until her arc is done or we get even more feats of such a level.
@BlackeJan I already did? So let’s go back to the numbers example.
- Base stats = 100
- Nerfed stats = 1
- DE = 2X or +Y, where X = current and Y = stat as if application
- Natsu starts at 100
- Wendy applies DE to him
- Natsu = 200 = 2(100) or 100+100
- Natsu gets overflowed which means he is now 1.
- Either the Enchantment now applies to that 1, making him 2 (1+1), or it is still the addition of his base power onto his current power, 101 (1+100).
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I had forgotten about that
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I agree with the idea that the Enchantment would have been negated by everyone’s magic power artificially going to 0
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Based on that, Wendy should scale to the blast.
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Gamer finally coming in to rep his girl smh.
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This wording is about to get me put on a watchlist.
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That wouldn’t make sense give them fact that it would had said that the enchantment would had gotten negated
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If your magic got negged as a whole, the enchantment would be the same, that's just logic.
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As I suggested much earlier in this thread, if Wendy scales to the 4 gigaton blast then IMO she should upscale to baseline 6-C due to tanking the blast (which is really close to 4.3 gigatons) without that many injuries to show for it, which fits perfectly with her other 6-C showings.
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It didn’t say the magic got begged it just dropped to 0
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That’s the same thing. If your magic drops to 0, the enchantment will go away because there’s no magic to keep the enchantment up.
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Gamer, Wendy hit 0 against Doom and the Fodders were still amped.
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Nope, Wendy said herself she had enough magic for a few enchantments, and she enchanted them with all the magic power she had left.
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That’s what I am talking about. She used all her magic to Enchant them and they stayed Enchanted even when she hit 0. Her body thinking it’s/being at 0 doesn’t mean her Enchantments shut off.
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Alta Face hit them with a magic neg attack, so yes, it would’ve shut off the Enchantment once it hit.
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Huh? The attack didn’t neg magic, it made their bodies think they had no magic, thus preventing them from using magic. It doesn’t actually power null them.
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Well since their magic was knocked to 0, wouldn’t DE not have the same effect as normal? Like, they still got the buff, but their magic was knocked to 0.
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That’s what I was explaining for Blacke, either DE still gives them their base stats or DE just multiplied their new trash stats. If the latter is what you meant, my bad. I misunderstood what you meant.
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Yeah, I essentially believe DE multiplied their trash stats, so Wendy should fully scale to the blast.
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