Fairy Tail: Absolute Zero

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

In Fairy Tail Chapter 497, the chapter says that Invel has a winter cold that bests even Absolute Zero, so he should have Absolute Zero on his profile

It's supported by the numerous feats of him being able to freeze fire and ice, as well as make Gray feel cold, and have ice that can only be melted by Natsu, despite characters like Wall having 200,000,000 degree heat. There's an abundance of scaling above people who have insane cold feats, so this is highly supported

I don't agree with writing it off solely because it's in the chapter text, I mean this is very direct

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Seems fine

 

[KingTempest]

Besides the fact that the title of the thread is cool as hell, this thread makes sense. I agree

 

[Eseseso]

Seems fine.

 

[TheForgottenKing]

I think this is fine

 

[ShadowGun45]

this is in raw when it was released too, so I don't think there's a problem with that.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

200,000,000 degree heat

Is there a way to calc how cold it has to be to freeze that

 

[Popted2]

agree with Mitch

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Is there a way to calc how cold it has to be to freeze that

He never did, I'm just saying Wall can't melt the ice

 

[SamanPatou]

Although the presented feats sound more like magic (like freezing fire and ice) or just very very low temperatures rather than actual evidences, this thing might meet our requirements for Absolute Zero.
What I'm more concerned about is if the tagline can be considered a reliable source, as they tend to be used to hype up the new chapters.

Still, a "possibly Absolute Zero" might still be warranted.

 

[LordGinSama]

Basically what Saman said, the statement itself doesn't really matter much if it doesn't fit within our criteria for AZ.


From what I've seen the temperature needs to be directly stated for AZ to be given to characters, such as Rukia's Bankai.


Freezing air doesn't really support AZ either and I'm not sure if it not melting from Natsu's fire is supportive evidence since ice is still ice regardless of the temperature.

 

[Damage3245]

I think SamanPatou is correct here.

 

[FinePoint]

• If the source of the statement is reliable?

This is the part that seems uncertain.

• If the statement conflicts with the story or feats of the character?

It does not.

• If the statement is only valid in the context of its setting, or if it holds up in comparison with other settings?

Don't see why this would be a problem.


To me, it fits 2 1/2 of the criteria.
So, I think a "possibly" should be fine. It would be used in VS threads unless restricted.

 

[Zackra1799]

What I'm more concerned about is if the tagline can be considered a reliable source, as they tend to be used to hype up the new chapters.

Regarding this portion, the statement should be taken as fairly reliable. Looking at the various chapters around it, many of them tend to depict the various events that will happen either currently or in future chapters in reasonably accurate detail. The very next Chapter the narrative text describes the current events between Gray and Juvia being affected by Invels magic. Two chapters later, the previous chapter doesn't have narration text at the end, we are also told that Natsu and Gray's friendship has been torn apart which which does happen in a later chapter as Gray wants to kill END. In that chapter the text was eluding to, we are told that Natsu and Gray are gonna battle in the narration text which does happen the following chapter. It even mentions fate with regards to Zeref which is something that gets directly brought up later on.

Even when we get more hyperbolic statements such as this and this, quotes are used to which are used denote the hyperbolic nature of those statements. Quotes are not present in the Invel statement which would add more credibility to said statement.

I would agree for possibly or likely to this.

 

[ShadowGun45]

The editor's note seems to be implying that Invel's ice is superior to Gray and Silver's, as Silver has that title with absolute zero and even uses it on his armor.

 

[LordGinSama]

The editor's note seems to be implying that Invel's ice is superior to Gray and Silver's, as Silver has that title with absolute zero and even uses it on his armor.

Sliver's ice is absolutely not absolutely zero. .


A title isn't indication of something being legitimate.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Since Gray replicated Invel’s Ice, he should also get it in hindsight

 

[XXKINGXX69]

Doesnt he also have the word "absolute zero" on his shirt? Obviously isn't strong evidence, just weak supporting evidence

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

I mean... In terms of heat

Basic Fire<Fukurou's Fire Magic<X784 Gray's Ice Magic=X784 Base Natsu's Fire Magic<X784 Lyon's Ice Magic<X791 Lyon's Ice Magic<=X791 Base Gray's Ice Magic=X791 Base Natsu's Fire Magic<<<Silver's Ice Magic<=X791 Devil Slayer Gray's Ice Magic<X792 Devil Slayer Gray's Ice Magic=X792 Base Natsu's Fire Magic<<<Wall's Magnetic Confinement<Invel's Ice Magic<Peak X792 Base Natsu's Fire

So the chain of heat is large

 

[CloverDragon03]

This makes sense to me

 

[LordGinSama]

As per usual I agree with Mitch on Fairy Tail topics.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

I feel like the above post is capping

Agree with the CRT does this also mean Natsu has Absolute Hot fire for melting Invel’s ice

 

[LordGinSama]

I feel like the above post is capping

Agree with the CRT does this also mean Natsu has Absolute Hot fire for melting Invel’s ice

He already has cconceptually hot heat bc he's super hot with his hair grown out.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Well it seems "Likely Absolute Zero" has been accepted, I'll apply the changes now

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

I've applied the changes, I will close this now