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Child Zeref has zero feats
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Fairy Tail 100 Year Quest Discussion Thread: Post-Void Saga
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I assume that the child zeref cannot control anksheram and is operating passively, I guess this would lead us to assume that zeref's "Death Predation" hax on anksheram is passive.
In short, I think it's important
I think an average human level can be given because zeref is a mage and was the best in his place at the time and dealt with life and death, let's not forget what he did for his brother, also because we assume he was an anksheram.
Death manip, soul manip (these can be passive) mid godly given from anksheram and more
I strongly disagree that he has 0 feat and I can prepare something for the kid zeref key if you want.
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No, we're not adding a Child Zeref key. End of story
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When we look at the manga in general, we see this, they made a deal with Selene, they defeated Merc, Aldoron and Viernes, this means there are 2 dragon gods left. I don't think elfseria will cause any problems, so I think it will only focus on ignia.
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, he will probably be doing this because he cannot defeat other god dragons and will take over the world when all the god dragons are defeated. 
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I do not think so. I think Acno is still the strongest in the universe
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OK, so you were saying it's in the finale based on how you read it. But Mashima himself said that he is only halfway done.
As for me, since the Dragon God elements were based on the 7 luminaries of Japan, be it Moon 月曜日, Fire 火曜日, Water 水曜日, Wood 木曜日, Gold 金曜日 and Earth 土曜日, where would the Sun 日曜日 element be?
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I just said ignia is better
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There is no such thing as the same thing
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What do you mean by that?
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There is no need to adapt it in the same way as the manga, as it is in Japan.
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I still don't know if you are making any sense.
But the Dragon God elements were literally based on the Japan luminaries elements. Also the manga is also originated in Japan too. There is no coincidence that Mashima would be trying the plan something if he had designed the Dragon Gods based on the 7 luminaries in Japan.
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That is the problem. You come to the forum and write things like "Ignia > Acnologia" even though nothing is being said about Acnologia. Not long ago a Zeref fan was doing the same thing. In this forum I want to discuss current manga and exchange information with the staff, not to see this.
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Selene or Zeref, which do you think is stronger?
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About the same if we count Fairy Heart Zeref, Selene if we don't count Fairy Heart Zeref
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The fact Gray is now the 2nd strongest member of the Guild and can flex on people like Laxus and Erza despite having dogshit feats actually agitates me
Screw you Sai and your dumbass Rival Bond
Screw you Sai and your dumbass Rival Bond
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I probably would add not the statement of Rival Bond. Mainly because it turns to who you see as a rival. What happens if the person you see as a rival is either stronger or weaker than the victim.
I would probably write the fact that both Natsu and Gray were able to use each other's magics fairly well in their situation. Gray used Natsu's magic well and did easy heavy damage on Sai, Gennai and Kotetsu. Natsu used Gray's Ice-Make to knock back Athena II.
I would probably write the fact that both Natsu and Gray were able to use each other's magics fairly well in their situation. Gray used Natsu's magic well and did easy heavy damage on Sai, Gennai and Kotetsu. Natsu used Gray's Ice-Make to knock back Athena II.
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I don't remember what I wrote to you, I wrote it in the general thread section and you can get more information in such discussions, if you want to get information.
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Nope. This kind of stuff you write doesn't give us information. We're just learning how to wank better. Please use thread for its intended purpose.
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Fairy Tail FTL+ Downgrade
I'm opening this CRT because I think the FTL+ calculation for the Fairy Tail universe is calc stack. Calculation: Selene Blitzes Suzaku The Problem: 0.000000003336 seconds timeframe is a result of 1 meter divided by light speed. Here using that for a calculation should be calc stacking as...
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I don't agree, Zeref only in base mode was able to beat Selene with her Time Stop and DeathManip
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Does Zeref have the speed to catch up with Selene?
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Whoever thinks FH Zeref stomps any Dragon God character, please evaluate yourself
That Zeref got dunked on by Natsu
That Zeref got dunked on by Natsu
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Something Something Death hax gg
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It’s nothing to really evaluate just an opinion but like if I have to explain myself I don’t really mind.
The way I personally looked at it, Fairy Heart Zeref > ALTA Face in magical energy, therefore being a planet popper and comparable to other dragon gods.
Fairy Heart Zeref had a couple statements saying that at the very least he would be as strong as Acnologia, and before anyone brings up that Mashima statement, I interpret that as him referring to SBT Acnologia, not the base acnologia all the dragon gods [and imo fairy heart zeref] scales to.
But yeah I just don’t think she really has any way to deal with his time hax, enchantment magic above the likes of Irene’s which we see on screen affecting Selene so even if she tried to like go dragon form he can just put her right back into that of a humans and yeah I just don’t think she can beat him, I‘lol rephrase from stomp to “Fairy Heart Zeref should solidly beat her” since that’s more my opinion.
Also towards the Natsu thing, Natsu had a super strong amp, and has magic that burned through Zeref’s connection to Fairy Heart and the space between time something that Selene doesn’t have, that and the fact that Zeref said he was going to be back to normal
Oh yeah this is also a wincon, his death hax in his far weaker base form was going to kill Aldoron, and only took so long because he’s like ridiculously huge, it should definitely be able to be Selene imoSomething Something Death hax gg
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According to Mashima and the way he intended his story, he said Acnologia is the strongest in the original. Which means stronger than Zeref.
Also, Acnologia is stronger than Savage Dragon Fire Natsu who defeated Fairy Heart Zeref, not to mention Seven Fire Dragon's mode Natsu.
Also, Acnologia is stronger than Savage Dragon Fire Natsu who defeated Fairy Heart Zeref, not to mention Seven Fire Dragon's mode Natsu.
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I know?
I said I interpreted that statement as SBT Acnologia > Fairy Heart Zeref, that doesn’t affect my opinion of Fairy Heart Zeref = Pre SBt Acnologia, since it’s something reiterated in the verse.
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oh yes, discussing the topic of SBT Acno and FH Zeref is unreasonable.
I think Pre SBT Acno and FH zeref are still unclear. IIRC, even someone as knowledgeable as August thought it was just a "possibility". (I'm talking about Zeref's desire to obtain Fairy Heart and become stronger than Acno) So I think the outcome of this is uncertain. (Personally, I think Acno is still stronger, though, because there was still no SBT issue when he was planning to crush Zeref.)
I think Pre SBT Acno and FH zeref are still unclear. IIRC, even someone as knowledgeable as August thought it was just a "possibility". (I'm talking about Zeref's desire to obtain Fairy Heart and become stronger than Acno) So I think the outcome of this is uncertain. (Personally, I think Acno is still stronger, though, because there was still no SBT issue when he was planning to crush Zeref.)
Can you send the scan or the link
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Nope, the Dragon Gods themselves don't have resistance to Time Stop and Deathmanip So how did they defeat Zeref?
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Aldoron was even dying to the curse of a simple copy of Zeref base
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Answer, imo they don’t, besides maybe Ignia.
It doesn’t help the point either when someone explicitly stated to be as strong as Base Form Zeref is consistently hyped up as a threat to Dragon Gods, not that it’s this super outlandish thing since I’d genuinely go as far to say if not for the fact that Acnologia was basically immune/99% resistant to every spell in verse Base Zeref wouldn’t have been an eternal ragdoll for him, but that’s just my opinion.
Yeah sure.
[Im under the belief he doesn’t need Neo Eclipse to beat him simply because he himself states that his plan goes far beyond beating Acnologia, Neo Eclipse allows Zeref to completely live his entire life again in a new world where he can prevent Natsu from dying and prevent himself and Mavis from being cursed, killing a weaker Acnologia is just another benefit, it doesn’t mean he couldn’t have fought him then and there if he wanted too]
Also since like we are on to topic of like fairy heart and stuff does anyone else think if Acnologia had used it in conjunction to when absorbed the rift he wouldn’t have went insane the way he did?
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sigh.. Frankly, I was expecting an author interview or something. The most reliable of the Alaverez empire, even August said that there was a possibility that Zeref could surpass (or rival, I don't remember exactly) Acno once he acquired FH. It should not be forgotten that this is only a possibility, so we cannot say anything for sure.
Acno was already planning to destroy Zeref, our subject here is Acnologia's purpose, not Zeref's. And he wanted to do this while there was no SBT incident. Regarding Zeref's goal, he said from the very beginning that he wanted to slaughter Acnologia and later the people of Ishgar, But even after obtaining FH, what he did was reset time. Long story short, the FH Zeref vs Pre SBT Acnologia topic is pretty vague and contingent, so it doesn't make much sense to discuss it, tbh
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I don’t understand why, it’s pretty clear I was referring to in series statements but my bad I guess?
I’m having an hard time understanding what you’re trying to say in your first two sentences but for the last one.
Yeah he wants to fight Acnologia and all but he also genuinely like doesn’t care about him when he actually gets Fairy Heart. When he’s absorbing it he only states he’ll fight him in the new world as a favor to Mavis. Clearly his priority was never really facing him, it was always just getting enough power to reset the timeline.
It really isn’t though.
Well that’s just my take you don’t really have to agree or disagree honestly
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