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Child Zeref has zero feats
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I assume that the child zeref cannot control anksheram and is operating passively, I guess this would lead us to assume that zeref's "Death Predation" hax on anksheram is passive.A key for child Zeref would be unnecessary
I think an average human level can be given because zeref is a mage and was the best in his place at the time and dealt with life and death, let's not forget what he did for his brother, also because we assume he was an anksheram.Child Zeref has zero feats
When we look at the manga in general, we see this, they made a deal with Selene, they defeated Merc, Aldoron and Viernes, this means there are 2 dragon gods left. I don't think elfseria will cause any problems, so I think it will only focus on ignia.Where does it say that?
it would be great
I do not think so. I think Acno is still the strongest in the universeHe would probably get beaten by Ignia
OK, so you were saying it's in the finale based on how you read it. But Mashima himself said that he is only halfway done.When we look at the manga in general, we see this, they made a deal with Selene, they defeated Merc, Aldoron and Viernes, this means there are 2 dragon gods left. I don't think elfseria will cause any problems, so I think it will only focus on ignia.
He would probably get beaten by Ignia
whyI do not think so. I think Acno is still the strongest in the universe
I just said ignia is betterWhy do people here want to bash Acnologia?
There is no such thing as the same thingOK, so you were saying it's in the finale based on how you read it. But Mashima himself said that he is only halfway done.
As for me, since the Dragon God elements were based on the 7 luminaries of Japan, be it Moon 月曜日, Fire 火曜日, Water 水曜日, Wood 木曜日, Gold 金曜日 and Earth 土曜日, where would the Sun 日曜日 element be?
What do you mean by that?There is no such thing as the same thing
There is no need to adapt it in the same way as the manga, as it is in Japan.What do you mean by that?
I still don't know if you are making any sense.There is no need to adapt it in the same way as the manga, as it is in Japan.
That is the problem. You come to the forum and write things like "Ignia > Acnologia" even though nothing is being said about Acnologia. Not long ago a Zeref fan was doing the same thing. In this forum I want to discuss current manga and exchange information with the staff, not to see this.I just said ignia is better
About the same if we count Fairy Heart Zeref, Selene if we don't count Fairy Heart ZerefSelene or Zeref, which do you think is stronger?
Tell that to Fairy Tail RedditThe fact Gray is now the 2nd strongest member of the Guild and can flex on people like Laxus and Erza despite having dogshit feats actually agitates me
Screw you Sai and your dumbass Rival Bond
I don't remember what I wrote to you, I wrote it in the general thread section and you can get more information in such discussions, if you want to get information.That is the problem. You come to the forum and write things like "Ignia > Acnologia" even though nothing is being said about Acnologia. Not long ago a Zeref fan was doing the same thing. In this forum I want to discuss current manga and exchange information with the staff, not to see this.
Nope. This kind of stuff you write doesn't give us information. We're just learning how to wank better. Please use thread for its intended purpose.I don't remember what I wrote to you, I wrote it in the general thread section and you can get more information in such discussions, if you want to get information.
I don't agree, Zeref only in base mode was able to beat Selene with her Time Stop and DeathManipAbout the same if we count Fairy Heart Zeref, Selene if we don't count Fairy Heart Zeref
Something Something Death hax ggWhoever thinks FH Zeref stomps any Dragon God character, please evaluate yourself
That Zeref got dunked on by Natsu
It’s nothing to really evaluate just an opinion but like if I have to explain myself I don’t really mind.Whoever thinks FH Zeref stomps any Dragon God character, please evaluate yourself
That Zeref got dunked on by Natsu
Oh yeah this is also a wincon, his death hax in his far weaker base form was going to kill Aldoron, and only took so long because he’s like ridiculously huge, it should definitely be able to be Selene imoSomething Something Death hax gg
I know?According to Mashima and the way he intended his story, he said Acnologia is the strongest in the original. Which means stronger than Zeref.
I said I interpreted that statement as SBT Acnologia > Fairy Heart Zeref, that doesn’t affect my opinion of Fairy Heart Zeref = Pre SBt Acnologia, since it’s something reiterated in the verse.Fairy Heart Zeref had a couple statements saying that at the very least he would be as strong as Acnologia, and before anyone brings up that Mashima statement, I interpret that as him referring to SBT Acnologia, not the base acnologia all the dragon gods [and imo fairy heart zeref] scales to.
Can you send the scan or the linkFairy Heart Zeref had a couple statements saying that at the very least he would be as strong as Acnologia
Nope, the Dragon Gods themselves don't have resistance to Time Stop and Deathmanip So how did they defeat Zeref?Whoever thinks FH Zeref stomps any Dragon God character, please evaluate yourself
That Zeref got dunked on by Natsu
Aldoron was even dying to the curse of a simple copy of Zeref baseNope, the Dragon Gods themselves don't have resistance to Time Stop and Deathmanip So how did they defeat Zeref?
Answer, imo they don’t, besides maybe Ignia.Nope, the Dragon Gods themselves don't have resistance to Time Stop and Deathmanip So how did they defeat Zeref?
Yeah sure.Can you send the scan or the link
sigh.. Frankly, I was expecting an author interview or something. The most reliable of the Alaverez empire, even August said that there was a possibility that Zeref could surpass (or rival, I don't remember exactly) Acno once he acquired FH. It should not be forgotten that this is only a possibility, so we cannot say anything for sure.
Acno was already planning to destroy Zeref, our subject here is Acnologia's purpose, not Zeref's. And he wanted to do this while there was no SBT incident. Regarding Zeref's goal, he said from the very beginning that he wanted to slaughter Acnologia and later the people of Ishgar, But even after obtaining FH, what he did was reset time. Long story short, the FH Zeref vs Pre SBT Acnologia topic is pretty vague and contingent, so it doesn't make much sense to discuss it, tbh[Im under the belief he doesn’t need Neo Eclipse to beat him simply because he himself states that his plan goes far beyond beating Acnologia, Neo Eclipse allows Zeref to completely live his entire life again in a new world where he can prevent Natsu from dying and prevent himself and Mavis from being cursed, killing a weaker Acnologia is just another benefit, it doesn’t mean he couldn’t have fought him then and there if he wanted too]
I don’t understand why, it’s pretty clear I was referring to in series statements but my bad I guess?sigh.. Frankly, I was expecting an author interview or something.
I’m having an hard time understanding what you’re trying to say in your first two sentences but for the last one.Acno was already planning to destroy Zeref, our subject here is Acnologia's purpose, not Zeref's. And he wanted to do this while there was no SBT incident. Regarding Zeref's goal, he said from the very beginning that he wanted to slaughter Acnologia and later the people of Ishgar, But even after obtaining FH, what he did was reset time.
It really isn’t though.Long story short, the FH Zeref vs Pre SBT Acnologia topic is pretty vague and contingent, so it doesn't make much sense to discuss it, tbh
Well that’s just my take you don’t really have to agree or disagree honestlyFairy Heart is hyped up by multiple characters to even the playing field between Zeref and Acnologia.
Fairy Heart is the pinnacle of all magic power, and is strongest than the three great fairy spells, including fairy sphere which affected Acnologia.
Nobody in the series states Base Acnologia can beat FH Zeref because one again it’s reiterated by characters that it should make the two on equal grounds, and this is just in the context of him using fairy heart and not even know about the sbt.
Mashima’s statement doesn’t contradict this either since the strongest character in the original series is clearly Post Ravine Acnologia no contest.