Expanding the References for Common Feats page

[Omnificence]

exhales Okay, how about this?

• Lighting up Galaxies
• Energy required to freeze an entire galaxy
• The Energy of a Galaxy
• Speed Needed to Break Your Leg
• Typical fighting stats
• Vaporizing Spain
• Vaporization of Titanium Value
• Vaporising the entire atmosphere
• Vaporising a tank
• Energy to Vaporize a Car
• Force needed to rip off the arm of a human
• Throwing a Bowling Ball
• Ripping off someone's jaw
• Common Volcano Eruptions
• Launching Someone into Space

 

[Armorchompy]

@Antvasima @DontTalkDT @Armorchompy Okay, now so far we have...

• Lighting up Galaxies
• Speed Needed to Break Your Leg
• Typical fighting stats
• Force needed to rip off the arm of a human
• Throwing a Bowling Ball
• Ripping off someone's jaw
• Common Volcano Eruptions
• Launching Someone into Space
• Energy needed to shake planets at the edge of the universe

Are there any others that shouldn't be added?

More like this + my comet feat if that's fine. Except take away the arm one too since it was being discussed

 

[Propellus]

(Forgive me if this is already being discussed or if i missed this)Shall we have a proposal for when someone vaporizes meteors as a common feat? Since it's something you'd usually see in most superhero movies?

 

[Armorchompy]

(Forgive me if this is already being discussed or if i missed this)Shall we have a proposal for when someone vaporizes meteors as a common feat? Since it's something you'd usually see in most superhero movies?

vaporization is pretty rare and needs very specific context, especially in the context of a meteor that's usually surrounded by vapor anyway.

 

[Antvasima]

exhales Okay, how about this?

• Lighting up Galaxies
• Energy required to freeze an entire galaxy
• The Energy of a Galaxy
• Speed Needed to Break Your Leg
• Typical fighting stats
• Vaporizing Spain
• Vaporization of Titanium Value
• Vaporising the entire atmosphere
• Vaporising a tank
• Energy to Vaporize a Car
• Force needed to rip off the arm of a human
• Throwing a Bowling Ball
• Ripping off someone's jaw
• Common Volcano Eruptions
• Launching Someone into Space

I don't think that freezing a galaxy, vaporizing Spain, vaporization of Titanium, vaporising the atmosphere, or throwing a bowling ball seem sufficiently relevant.

 

[Antvasima]

Breaking a leg by running fast also seems like a very specific and unusual feat.

 

[Omnificence]

I don't think that freezing a galaxy, vaporizing Spain, vaporization of Titanium, vaporising the atmosphere, or throwing a bowling ball seem sufficiently relevant.

Breaking a leg by running fast also seems like a very specific and unusual feat.

Okay...

• Lighting up Galaxies
• The Energy of a Galaxy
• Typical fighting stats
• Vaporising a tank
• Energy to Vaporize a Car
• Ripping off someone's jaw
• Common Volcano Eruptions
• Launching Someone into Space
• Standard Feat - Kinetic Energy of a Comet

Good to go now?

 

[Gewsbumpz_dude]

Isn’t tearing a human arm off a common feat?

 

[Armorchompy]

Okay...

• Lighting up Galaxies
• The Energy of a Galaxy
• Typical fighting stats
• Vaporising a tank
• Energy to Vaporize a Car
• Ripping off someone's jaw
• Common Volcano Eruptions
• Launching Someone into Space
• Standard Feat - Kinetic Energy of a Comet

Good to go now?

The ones I crossed out are too specific too IMO.

 

[Omnificence]

Ugh...

• Lighting up Galaxies
• Typical fighting stats
• Ripping off someone's jaw
• Common Volcano Eruptions
• Launching Someone into Space
• Standard Feat - Kinetic Energy of a Comet

Now?

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

@Armorchompy what exactly counts as a common volcano eruption? Not all volcanoes are the same you know, and Mt. Vesuvius definitely isn't just High 8-C

 

[Armorchompy]

Average means it uses average volcano stats, duh

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

Looking at the source link, it appears that the calc is for a basaltic volcano, not a rhyolitic volcano

 

[Armorchompy]

ok.

 

[Jasonsith]

Isn’t tearing a human arm off a common feat?

Yes and no.
Arms come in various sizes.

Meanwhile, heads come in more standard sizes.
And lucky enough I have calculated or just found a video stating ripping heads off be 5000 N to 15000 N
While ripping spines MK style will be 1,000,000 N.

And some OPM fans and FOTNS fans are asking me for the questions below hell (despite I have to start working now):



What criteria is there and what yield data they have to constitute

• Moving your back so fast you see your back from a mirror
• Moving so fast "it casts a shadow"
• Moving so fast "it casts no shadow"
• Moving so fast "it tags a lightning leader"
• Moving so fast "it tags a lightning return stroke"

 

[KLOL506]

Ugh...

• Lighting up Galaxies

Crossed out, not common enough.

• Ripping off someone's jaw

Calc got rejected for having too many issues last I remember. Now it's just Superhuman.

 

[Hellbeast]

What's the AP for the arm one curiously? Street Level?

 

[Scottycj256]

I feel like there should be a calc for creating ice spikes at specific sizes

 

[KLOL506]

I feel like there should be a calc for creating ice spikes at specific sizes

Too variable.

 

[Armorchompy]

Yes and no.
Arms come in various sizes.

I mean just like, use the average arm.

What criteria is there and what yield data they have to constitute

• Moving your back so fast you see your back from a mirror
• Moving so fast "it casts a shadow"
• Moving so fast "it casts no shadow"
• Moving so fast "it tags a lightning leader"
• Moving so fast "it tags a lightning return stroke"

None, it's too variable IMO.

 

[Jasonsith]

How much force to tear off a limb?

How much force would it take to tear off a limb from the human body? Don't worry, I'm not planning on trying this at home. Yes, I realize that bodies are variable. If you are familiar with any...

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I may wrap this into a calc blog with my double check on the data used. But I would like to hear your opinions first.

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Sometimes, even facing common feats, there can be so many variables as to how a calculation should be made and what yield should deliver.

I wonder if it is better some guidelines be set for calculating some common feats instead.

For example, instead of listing a table of "yield data for creating ice spikes at specific sizes", we write a formula for how to calculate an ice spike.

 

[Omnificence]

sigh

• Typical fighting stats
• Common Volcano Eruptions
• Launching Someone into Space
• Standard Feat - Kinetic Energy of a Comet

 

[Antvasima]

The ones I crossed out are too specific too IMO.

I think that vaporising a tank and a car might be useful to keep.

 

[Antvasima]

Crossed out, not common enough.

I think that lighting up a galaxy can probably be kept as well, but I am not certain.

 

[Antvasima]

I mean just like, use the average arm.

I also think calculating the energy to rip off arms of a few different sizes should be useful, as it is a rather common feat.

 

[Armorchompy]

I think that vaporising a tank and a car might be useful to keep.

Never ran into it personally, vaporizing is pretty specific and considering that any vehicle explosion is gonna involve smoke, even more so here

 

[LordTracer]

I think that vaporising a tank and a car might be useful to keep.

I think vaporizing a car would be useful too, but DDM’s calc for it was unfinished.

 

[Omnificence]

I think vaporizing a car would be useful too, but DDM’s calc for it was unfinished.

Got a link to it by chance?

 

[LordTracer]

Energy to Vaporize a Car

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[Scottycj256]

9-A+ off of vaporising a car but 8-C off of melting a car

thonk

 

[Antvasima]

I think vaporizing a car would be useful too, but DDM’s calc for it was unfinished.

Okay. Never mind then.

 

[Jasonsith]

9-A+ off of vaporising a car but 8-C off of melting a car

thonk

Well if I were less busy I would try reorganising the energy required to frag / melt / vaporise / saw off a car.

I have done some calcs before but that was before material frag values were revised.

 

[Antvasima]

That is a good idea, yes. Is somebody else here willing to handle it?

 

[Jasonsith]

That is a good idea, yes. Is somebody else here willing to handle it?

I may handle - I mean, overhaul it once I get more idle after about at least three weeks...

Meanwhile, I would like to ask:

Laser/Light Beam Dodging Feats

"Light" or "Laser" dodging is a fairly common trope seen in fiction and often the center of debate regarding characters' speeds, given that light is the fastest known thing in the real universe. This article will set forth the standards of this wiki in determining what is considered a real...

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We need to at least have a projectile fulfilling several of the requirements stated in the above link to call off a projectile to be laser rather than calling any energy / magic / chi blast a laser right?

(I am being told there are new ways in proving a projectile is light speed)

 

[Omnificence]

Alright, everyone, I'd like to announce that the calculation for Catching An Arrow has been updated thanks to our good friends @Arrogant_Schmuck and @KLOL506. Now that it's taken care of, let's see if we can get more evaluations for it.

 

[KLOL506]

Alright, everyone, I'd like to announce that the calculation for Catching An Arrow has been updated thanks to our good friends @Arrogant_Schmuck and @KLOL506. Now that it's taken care of, let's see if we can get more evaluations for it.

Friendly reminder that this works ONLY IF THERE IS CONFIRMATION THAT THE ARROW WAS CLOSE TO THE CHARACTER WHEN THEY WENT IN TO GRAB IT.

 

[Jasonsith]

Alright, everyone, I'd like to announce that the calculation for Catching An Arrow has been updated thanks to our good friends @Arrogant_Schmuck and @KLOL506. Now that it's taken care of, let's see if we can get more evaluations for it.

Not quite. The projectile distance needs explanation.

 

[KLOL506]

Not quite. The projectile distance needs explanation.

Projectile distance was already explained tho, as a low-ball, we'd assume the distance between the projectile and the person would be the length of the full arrow or the crossbow bolt itself.

Meaning at the time of dodging or catching the arrow would be one arrow's worth of length away from the character's face before they grabbed it.

Though I have some concerns, that's too far away to be grabbed by your hand if your lower arm is already bent, 0.365 long elbow wouldn't be enough to grab the arrow, since it'd still be 20-40 cm further from your hand if you already bent your lower arm at 90 degrees.

 

[Jasonsith]

Projectile distance was already explained tho, as a low-ball, we'd assume the distance between the projectile and the person would be the length of the full arrow or the crossbow bolt itself.

Meaning at the time of dodging or catching the arrow would be one arrow's worth of length away from the character's face before they grabbed it.

Though I have some concerns, that's too far away to be grabbed by your hand if your lower arm is already bent, 0.365 long elbow wouldn't be enough to grab the arrow, since it'd still be 20-40 cm further from your hand if you already bent your lower arm at 90 degrees.

Okay the projectile distance is at least justified.

For the forearm part... I believe the forearm movement distance should be around pi / 2 * 0.3 m = ~0.4712 m
As the forearm length should be around 0.3 m and in fiction these arms usually move by pi /2 rad or 90 degrees.

 

[KLOL506]

Okay the projectile distance is at least justified.

For the forearm part... I believe the forearm movement distance should be around pi / 2 * 0.3 m = ~0.4712 m
As the forearm length should be around 0.3 m and in fiction these arms usually move by pi /2 rad or 90 degrees.

That's... kinda what I said. To use 90 degrees.

Shortcut way is to just convert the degree value to rad, then multiply the rad value with the portion of the arm that moved in that angle.

Also, it's not 0.3 m, it's 0.365. 0.73/2 is 0.365.