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I think that Chaos should possibly be a type 1 abstract as he was stated to be the source of all chaotic and evil things, also the fight in Aria of Sorrow might have just been an avatar of Chaos as he still exists in the novel which takes place after Dawn. Thoughts?
 
LightinAnt said:
I think that Chaos should possibly be a type 1 abstract as he was stated to be the source of all chaotic and evil things, also the fight in Aria of Sorrow might have just been an avatar of Chaos as he still exists in the novel which takes place after Dawn. Thoughts?
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Wouldn´t that remove Soma´s concept erasure? Or did something else happened that I´m nto aware of?
 
He didn't destroy Chaos, Chaos still exists obviously since it powers literally everything and is the source of all evil. Soma killing a possible avatar doesn't count as concept hax
 
I mean I do agree that Soma killing Chaos and everyone still having their powers is weird, but where in the novel did it say that Chaos is alive? I don't remember that being mentioned.
 
Olrox wished to control Chaos, meaning he knows of its existence and Death not having any objections to it. Also again Chaos not existing would make every demon powerless/normally killable, Death wouldn't have the powers he has, likewise Olrox, Legion, Puppet Master, the entirety of Dawn of Sorrow etc.
 
Can you give quotes?

And, like I said, it's weird. Chaos might not be dead, but it might not be the entity "Chaos" but just the evil in the hearts of humans that gives them their powers. Or maybe it is Castlevania itself, in the same novel Orlox says that it's the powersource for Dracula.
 
Chaos is the abstract entity opposite to Gods order, also correct me if i'm wrong but Alucard said that there will always be evil or a dark lord on the rise in dawn. Also Chaos powers a lot of things, it should logically still exist.

"As I've said, I would equally gain control over the human world and the source of Dracula's power, chaos. I do not intend to obey someone else's mind aside from my own. That includes you who were born out of chaos."

And its true that chaos in humans hearts makes the castle come back, but that implies that Chaos still exists which it logically should
 
I mean yeah, it's not like people suddenly stopped being bad when Soma defeated Chaos. But it doesn't mean that Soma didn't kill it, it may mean that it just respawned.
 
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it may mean that it just respawned.
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I guess so, but he may not have destroyed it at all as evidenced by this

"If in essence, he is the new Dracula, he should have reigned over the castle but with the help of the vampire hunters' Genya Arikado, Julius Belmont and Yoko Belnades, as well as the previously mentioned childhood friend, his connection to chaos was severed."

Which implies that Soma only cut his ties with Chaos (Mid Godly AoS Soma when)
 
That makes even less sense because he still got his powers.

They may just not thought things through when they made the plot.
 
Yeah logically speaking they made Chaos too OP and too important when he is the literal source of evil/chaos and source of demons powers, it also is weird that Abstracts like Aguni just randomly wander around Drac's castle
 
Of importance? Yes. Of powerlevel? I dunno

We don't know much about God, we don't even know if he made everything in the CV verse (Multiverse and dimensions)
 
According to the CV wiki, this is Chaos´ true form.

Maybe it should be added to it´s profile?

Chaos2
 
That's the second phase of the boss. But whether that's it's "true" form we don't know. We know almost nothing about it.

But I don't think concept stuff should be removed from Soma's profile. He clearly defeated him, and potentially killed him, as the whole dimension collapses when you defeat it.
 
If anything, just "Can harm abstract beings" would be a better justification for the power.
 
Because harming abstracts can literally mean anything, pretty much every Belmont/Protagonist should be able to hurt Aguni who is the embodiment of fire and Death being the embodiment of Death. Just leave the justification as it is now, even though i'm against concept hax in general
 
So what are the conclusions here?
 
Well there is still lots of stuff for possible resistances like sleep hax and some more powers

-Succubus can invoke sleep in Sotn, Alucard can break free from it

-Olrox can control your body and put you to sleep, Alucard and Death shouldn't have been to bothered by this ability i.e evidence for sleep resistance

-Hectors little devils can sing a song that will put people to sleep (Hector is hearing it too, he should resist it and the Belmonts should resist it too due to many things being able to put you to sleep)

-Hector can make himself intangible with the magic circles

-Hector can absorb the life force of enemies (AOE)

-Hector should get Vibration manip through shockwaves

-Hector can one shot with purify

-Hector's Dragon familiar can breathe fires of hell i.e hellfire manipulation

-Hector can seemingly decipher unreadable scripts with his little devils (don't know what this power is)

-Resistance across the board to Memory Manip and further soulhax (yeah even fodder can soul and mind hax) from Polkir and Nominon who can suck up the memories and soul of their victims respectively

-Imp enemies can control you/stop you in your tracks, you can break free from them (Resistance to body puppetry and paralysis)

--Dracula should get sleep hax, paralysis and bodypuppetry and resist them too due to minor demons, invisibillity scaling from the invisible man

-Ressurection for Maria, possible invulnerability for Richter and semi type 4 ressurection through Maria
 
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