Eternals discussion thread

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Well then what'd we scale her to then? Cuz we're going to inevitably make a profile for her, she's essentially the main character so she should probably get a profile eventually? Preferably it's not just an Unknown profile

Idk you could calc her surfing getting thrown through the house by one of the deviants

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Also low quality clip of celestial feats

 

[RoTt35]

Ikaris flying inside the sun without visible injuries a few seconds can be used for High 6-A durability?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

A human surviving the heat of the sun is like 8-A. At best he gets some sort of resistance to heat manip

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

Dura via heat was removed a long time about iirc

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Well that's a yikes

 

[RoTt35]

Oh ok, i didn't know that

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Kinda hope Thanos gets some sort of scaling to the Eternals so we can finally get Relativistic speed for MCU Top Tiers

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Speaking of chin sack, I’m very curious on what star Fox and thanos’s relationship was like since Mcu thanos isn’t nearly of an asshole as comic thanos

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

At least MCU Thanos didn't murder half the universe out of simping, so that's a plus imo

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Star Fox

 

[TFO]

I can’t remember but didn’t Phastos take any hits from Ikaris?

 

[Revan_Laha]

It was actually surprising how many impactful dialogues Makkari delivered through only sign language

 

[Revan_Laha]

I can’t remember but didn’t Phastos take any hits from Ikaris?

He created a shield that blocked his eye beams. That's it.

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

More celestial stuff

 

[Revan_Laha]

I watched the cutscene of COC again. The feat only scales to Ikaris. He hugged Sersi while Tiamut emerged and destroyed the planet

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

I watched the cutscene of COC again. The feat only scales to Ikaris. He hugged Sersi while Tiamut emerged and destroyed the planet

What feat?

 

[Revan_Laha]

What feat?

Marvel Contest of Champions released a motion comic for Marvel Studios Eternals, voiced by Gemma Chan and Richard Madden themselves. Here Ikaris is shown hugging Sersi as Tiamut causes the planet to explode

 

[Revan_Laha]

The description actually says it's MCU. There motion comics are canon. Most of the times they are written by actual Marvel writers.

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

The description actually says it's MCU. There motion comics are canon. Most of the times they are written by actual Marvel writers.

I don’t really see how an intro for some Mcu characters into a video game would be considered cannon

 

[Dalesean027]

Yeah I'm pretty sure we don't accept games into the canon you need to do a CRT or start a Q&A for all this game stuff your sending

 

[Dinobot1996]

Druig withstood getting blasted into the ground by Ikaris (who was definitely being serious at that point, as he made it clear he intended to kill Druig), and still recovered in time to subdue Sprite, which gives me the impression that "thinker" Eternals shouldn't be too vastly below Ikaris, and should probably at least scale above the High 6-C cloud feat that Ikaris performed far more casually.

 

[Revan_Laha]

Also Sprite's illusions are tangible and she created 3 volcanoes

 

[ThanatosX]

So, what Tier would the Celestials be? I think creating a galaxy is a 4-A/3-C feat, and they are confirmed to be able to permorm this feats both throught visuals and statements, so I think that this should be their rating.
They might be able to reach 3-A or Low 2-C Tier with the statements we have, but for now those are kinda vague so it's better to wait for that.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I think creating a galaxy is a 4-A/3-C feat

It's around 4-B actually. Though considering one of the Celestials dwarfed a Galaxy, I suppose the strongest Celestials could be 3-B. I don't think they're anything beyond that. And like Newendigo said, the celestials shouldn't scale to each other

 

[ThanatosX]

They might be able to reach higher Tiers.

More celestial stuff

In this video, it's said that "their influence is felt in the very fabric of existence itself", which makes sense considering they existed even before the Six Singularities that created the Universe.
But it's vague and might mean many things, so it can be used only if it will ever be explained more about this.
So, I agree with the Tier 4/3 rating.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Wasn't it stated the universe was just a void before they made existence? Because if that's the case, 3-B via sheer size is the best I see them reaching, and going off of creation feats, their best creation feats would only be 4-B.

 

[ThanatosX]

Wasn't it stated the universe was just a void before they made existence? Because if that's the case, 3-B via sheer size is the best I see them reaching, and going off of creation feats, their best creation feats would only 4-B.

I don't think that it's stated that they created the Universe. The Universe was created by the original Singularity that created the six Stones.
They are the "architects of existence" and their influence is felt in the fabric of existence, but I don't think it means that they created existence, just that they molded it into what is now.

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Also Sprite's illusions are tangible and she created 3 volcanoes

Um I’m pretty sure they were never shown to be tangible

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Infinity Ultron being slower than the Eternals feels stupidly criminal

 

[TFO]

So, if i’m correct, the Timeline starts like this:

Void/Arishem > Six Singularities > Big Bang > Infinity Stones Thrown Out Across The Universe > Arishem Creates First Sun that brings Gravity and starts creation.

Honestly, based on all the information we know, It’s either Arishem tanked the Big Bang or Caused it but as far as the movie goes, it doesn’t lean into him “starting” the Big Bang. Being the “Architect of Existence” could easily mean that Arishem creating the First Sun And Generating Gravity kickstarted our Universe the same as IRL.

i just hope that all possibilities are debated before jumping straight to the highest one.

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Infinity Ultron being slower than the Eternals feels stupidly criminal

Yes

 

[ThanatosX]

I think that the only Celestial of the movie that should get a page is Arishem, which would scale to 4-B and maybe to 3-B since he should be the strongest Celestial, but I don't know about that last part.
For Tiamut I am not sure if he should get a page, considering that he wasn't even born and all we know about him is that is birth is 5-A.

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Also should we give ikaris mind resistance since druig had some chances to use it on ikaris and didn’t which would imply maybe it wouldn’t work

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

which would scale to 4-B and maybe to 3-B since he should be the strongest Celestial, but I don't know about that last part.

Is he even stated to be the strongest? Beyond that, he should be somewhere like 5-A via sheer size

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

I assume their creation of the universe implies the MCU multiverse?

Also, if we go by comics the strongest is the one above all (not the supreme being, the Celestial of the same name).

 

[Qawsedf234]

You ask and you shall receive

You sure that calc is right? She wasn't running full laps most of the time, but was going in curves and not running the entire circumference of the planet

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

You sure that calc is right? She wasn't running full laps most of the time, but was going in curves and not running the entire circumference of the planet

I used half the circumference of the Earth, don’t worry. At first I used planet curvature scaling before I realized it was stupid and I just used half the Earth’s circumference

 

[Qawsedf234]

I see what you're talking about now.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Infinity Ultron being slower than the Eternals feels stupidly criminal

He can amp himself to be faster. His current speed is just scaling to the Realty Stone created Ultron drones.

Also they like, shatter their arms attempting to punch Ultron anyways.