Encounter vs Love Train

[TriforcePower1]

I've just read this part of Medaka Box and I've seen how similar their powers are.

Gagamaru Chougasaki vs Funny Valentine with Love Train

Attack redirection vs Attack redirection

Encounter:

Love Train:

Dead Man's Volley: 7 (First Witch, Agnaa ,Paul, Torlikoff, Dienomite, Yotusgi, Yobo)

 

[Torlikoff]

So, they can't hurt each other in the slightest.

 

[TriforcePower1]

Maybe? That's what I'm trying to figure out by making this match.

 

[First_Witch]

Funny tries to paradox but both Encounters say "miss me with that gay shit".

Incon of doom

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Funny has BFR, but I'm trying to figure out a way for Gagamaru to win

 

[Paul_Frank]

To bfr funny has to put Gagamaru under the flag or behind a door

Which encounter could just push away

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

I am not sure why would that Encounter would do that

 

[Paul_Frank]

Why would it not push away a flag that an opponent is trying to put ontop of him?

 

[Dienomite22]

Because it isn't damage or an attack

 

[Paul_Frank]

An opponent trying to cover you with something during a fight is an attack

 

[PolarKid]

To bfr funny has to put Gagamaru under the flag or behind a door
Which encounter could just push away

he dosent need aflag or a door as long someone is betven 2 objects like that one time he used water thats falling on him and floor

 

[Paul_Frank]

To bfr funny has to put Gagamaru under the flag or behind a door
Which encounter could just push away

he dosent need aflag or a door as long someone is betven 2 objects like that one time he used water thats falling on him and floor

That's true but this is central park and there isn't really much to use besides his flag

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

An opponent trying to cover you with something during a fight is an attack

Encounter blocks damage. In fact, it usually functions like a portal so no damage works on him. What funny does is not explicitly an attack, he is just putting a flag on you

 

[Paul_Frank]

@Iap

Hasn't encounter prevented being grabbed before

A grab is also not explicitly an attack

 

[Dienomite22]

An opponent trying to cover you with something during a fight is an attack

No, it's not and it doesn't have anything to deflect besides the feeling of the flag's fabric.

 

[Dienomite22]

@Iap
A grab is also not explicitly an attack

If it was a forceful and unwanted grab then yes it is an attack

 

[Paul_Frank]

@Dienomite

Then being forcfully and unwantedly covered by a huge usa flag is also an attack

 

[Dienomite22]

@Paul Frank

Putting a flag on someone isn't at all considered an attack even by the dictionary or legal definition and a rationally minded person wouldn't consider it an attack even if it was unwanted or forced.It would just be considered a bother.

Grabbing someone forcefully and unwanted is an obvious attack.

 

[Paul_Frank]

@dienomite

The definition of assault varies by jurisdiction, but is generally defined as intentionally putting another person in reasonable apprehension of an imminent harmful or offensive contact. Physical injury is not required.

That's straight from Cornell

Putting a flag on your opponent during a fight is offensive contact even if it doesn't cause physical injury

 

[Agnaa]

Also, even if it can get placed onto him, Encounter can still push things away after they've affected Gagamaru. Granted, we've only seen this with pushing away mental abilities, but it should work on physical contact as well.

 

[Dienomite22]

@Paul Frank

We're talking about attack, physical harm and damage not assault.Many things can be considered assault but aren't physical attacks or damage.Gagamaru Chougasaki is explicitly stated to deflect physical, mental,emotional, and spiritual damage, nothing about a flag being placed on him would be considered physical,mental,emotional and spiritual damage unless Gagamaru Chougasaki can pick and choose what he considers damage.

 

[Agnaa]

Inconclusive since they can't do lasting harm to each other.

 

[Paul_Frank]

@dienomite

Attack-take aggressive action against (a place or enemy forces) with weapons or armed force, typically in a battle or war.

Placing a flag on an opponent is an agressive action. Even if you want to argue that, it doesn't hurt them so it's not an attack, which isn't exactly true since a flag of that size being put on you would still physically be felt, it still would disorient the target which would make it an agressive action and thus an attack

Incon fra

 

[Torlikoff]

Incon FRA

 

[Dienomite22]

@Paul Frank

Attack-take aggressive action against (a place or enemy forces) with weapons or armed force, typically in a battle or war.

A flag isn't a weapon, Gagamaru Chougasaki wouldn't know Funny is an armed force or an attacker,and placing a flag on a person isn't an aggressive action at least not to most.Placing a flag onto someone would not be considered an attack by any normally sane person especially Gagamaru and something being physically felt doesn't mean it can be considered an attack.Sure you can be disoriented or confused by the flag being placed on you and likely try to prevent it but not because it's percieved as an attack, just out of perplexity and confusion.

Someone can't beat the shit out of me just because I put a flag on them and they thought it was an attack.

 

[Dienomite22]

Inconclusive either way

 

[First_Witch]

>Gagamaru

>Sane

Pick one. You do realize that Encounter even threw back emotional pain right? Gagamarus never sustained any damage throughout his live.

Gagamaru comes from a nearly as batshit insane verse as jojo is. He will sure as hell not allow his enemy of all people to throw something at him.

 

[Dienomite22]

@First Witch

"You do realize that Encounter even threw back emotional pain right?"

Yes, but don't see how that matters unless attempting to place the flag on him will spark up emotional pain.

IIRC Gagamaru also likes to flex Encounter with everything he does so I doubt he would try to do anything when a flag is thrown on him.

 

[Agnaa]

@Dienomite22 Since you seemed to miss this earlier

Also, even if the flag can get placed onto him, Encounter can still push things away after they've affected Gagamaru. Granted, we've only seen this with pushing away mental abilities, but it should work on physical contact as well.

 

[Dienomite22]

Also, even if the flag can get placed onto him, Encounter can still push things away after they've affected Gagamaru. Granted, we've only seen this with pushing away mental abilities, but it should work on physical contact as well.

He would have to be able to deflect the affects of being BFR'd to another dimension which he doesn't have.

 

[Agnaa]

Removing the flag doesn't undo the BFR?

 

[Paul_Frank]

No once the flag is done being put on you are bfr'd

However the flag has to go over you and down to the floor after

 

[Dienomite22]

@Agnaa

If the flag is placed on him then he's BFR'd

 

[Dienomite22]

Either way, I doubt Funny's paradox would work since both Gagamaru could just deflect the mental draw to each other and probably the effects of the paradoxing.

 

[Agnaa]

@Agnaa

If the flag is placed on him then he's BFR'd

I already know that. My question is, does removing the flag undo the BFR?

 

[Dienomite22]

@Agnaa

No

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

No. The flag doesn't even come with

 

[Paul_Frank]

The flag would have to have went from his head to the floor without being repelled by the encounter for him to be bfr'd though

 

[Dienomite22]

@Paul Frank

Not necessarily, having just parts BFR'd kinda forces the whole body to BFR as well iirc

 

[Agnaa]

Is the flag visible to people who aren't stand users?