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Elden Ring General Discussion

That seems pretty unnecesarry.


I wouldn't recommend it considering the state of his page.
I guess.... I just find it annoying that he exists now but in that state. I can't even imagine how long it's gonna take to make the Tarnished considering how long it's taking other characters to get made. I would offer my help but I literally don't have a computer and mobile literally won't allow me to create profiles.
 
I guess.... I just find it annoying that he exists now but in that state. I can't even imagine how long it's gonna take to make the Tarnished considering how long it's taking other characters to get made. I would offer my help but I literally don't have a computer and mobile literally won't allow me to create profiles.
I'll fix it soon enough. Don't worry
 
What the hell is going on with the "evil Miquella" theory? Like, why are there so many people thinking it's a valid theory and/or saying they want it to be real? It not only goes against literally EVERYTHING we know about Miquella in the game, it's (in my opinion) an extremely bad theory and story. Heck, there are people trying to say Mohg abducted him because he was enthralled (cool victim shaming btw) and that it was all part of Miquella's plan. What the actual hell, have they actually played the game or do they just think it sounds so much better than Miquella simply being a tragic good guy?
 
To be fair, based on the items from St. Trina and the Bewitching Branches, we do know that he was somewhat associated with enthrallment. On top of him being considered the most fearsome Empyrean, people just took that to their conclusion.

I'm neutral towards the theory but like, I can see how someone would think that.
 
By the way, you guys ever wonder about what happened with Malenia and Miquella's Empyrean Shadows? Or if they even had them?
 
To be fair, based on the items from St. Trina and the Bewitching Branches, we do know that he was somewhat associated with enthrallment. On top of him being considered the most fearsome Empyrean, people just took that to their conclusion.

I'm neutral towards the theory but like, I can see how someone would think that.
Yeah but that seems like a big leap. That's pretty much the only kind of sinister aspect of his character, literally everything else depicts him as a compassionate individual who cares only about helping the prejudiced and curing his sister, the guy even offered an Incantation to his shitty father Radagon and abandonned a chance at godhood just because it didn't give what he needed to save his sister. Even Malenia's statement about how fearesome he is seems more related to his presence and how encompassing his goals are compared to the other Demigods.

I do agree that enthrallment like this is a scary idea but like I said, it's about the only thing sinister about him. I REALLY hope From isn't going for this road, it would completely destroy the tragedy of the Haligtree to me
 
By the way, you guys ever wonder about what happened with Malenia and Miquella's Empyrean Shadows? Or if they even had them?
Malenia probably killed them. Each Empyrean is supposed to have their own set of Two Fingers yet Ranni's are the only ones that get a focus and are alive (barring the ones at the hold) and we do find Two Fingers corpses across the map so it seems someone killed them. That or they didn't have some since it doesn't seem the GW took actions against Miquella creating the Haligtree and there are implications Morgott was sympathetic to the twins (at least to a degree)
 
, the guy even offered an Incantation to his shitty father Radagon
Radagon wasn't a bad father to my knowledge. Radahn and his other children didn't hate him and his ex-wife is still deeply in love with him. The reason Miquella broke from Radagon is because Radagon was unable or unwilling to save his sister and was trying to find another way to do so.
By the way, you guys ever wonder about what happened with Malenia and Miquella's Empyrean Shadows? Or if they even had them?
Since they both ditched the will of the Two Fingers, Malenia probably had to kill them.
 
Malenia probably killed them. Each Empyrean is supposed to have their own set of Two Fingers yet Ranni's are the only ones that get a focus and are alive (barring the ones at the hold) and we do find Two Fingers corpses across the map so it seems someone killed them. That or they didn't have some since it doesn't seem the GW took actions against Miquella creating the Haligtree and there are implications Morgott was sympathetic to the twins (at least to a degree)
You think they die with their specific demigod, which is why we always find them dead? As for them not having Fingers, I doubt that there wouldn't be some sort of counter measure against two potential gods in the Lands Between, especially one infected and connected to another Outer God.

As for the Greater Will, it does seem rather lax with its influence over the Lands Between (the Golden Order is another matter).
 
Radagon wasn't a bad father to my knowledge. Radahn and his other children didn't hate him and his ex-wife is still deeply in love with him.
There's no open hostility but it's pretty heavily implied none of his children (aside from Miquella) really like him anymore. Radahn idolizes Godfrey, aka the superior predecessor, instead of his own birth father even though Radagon was himself pretty badass, Rykard hates the Golden Order Radagon supports and wants to top it off (and it didn't start when he thought it was a good idea to offer himself to the Serpent) and Ranni is close to her birth mother and stepmother but doesn't mention her birth father. As for Rennala, she's a pathetic broken shell who barely seems to be capable of knowing what's going on around her now, at least partially because Radagon abandonned her and left her with nothing but an egg she uses for botched rituals and a dog., I don't think she's capable of acknowledging anything else than her egg now.
The reason Miquella broke from Radagon is because Radagon was unable or unwilling to save his sister and was trying to find another way to do so.
Miquella broke from the GO because he couldn't find anything in the order that could help him cure Malenia
 
There's no open hostility but it's pretty heavily implied none of his children (aside from Miquella) really like him anymore. Radahn idolizes Godfrey, aka the superior predecessor, instead of his own birth father even though Radagon was himself pretty badass,
I don't think that really implies that he dislikes his father. It's more than possible to just idolize someone else more, let alone the Elden Lord and the most powerful warrior alive.
Rykard hates the Golden Order Radagon supports and wants to top it off (and it didn't start when he thought it was a good idea to offer himself to the Serpent)
Yeah but like, I don't think this is specifically an issue with Radagon.
and Ranni is close to her birth mother and stepmother but doesn't mention her birth father.
I mean, this doesn't prove she likes him but also doesn't prove otherwise. Even her interaction with her birth mother seems limited to her projection in the Grand Library.
As for Rennala, she's a pathetic broken shell who barely seems to be capable of knowing what's going on around her now, at least partially because Radagon abandonned her and left her with nothing but an egg she uses for botched rituals and a dog., I don't think she's capable of acknowledging anything else than her egg now.
True.
Miquella broke from the GO because he couldn't find anything in the order that could help him cure Malenia
Also true.
 
There's no open hostility but it's pretty heavily implied none of his children (aside from Miquella) really like him anymore.
Afaik that's more of a fan read without lore supplementation. Radahn modeled his armor both after Radagon and Godfrey and is also called a Golden Order fundamentalist. Indicating he still likes his father.
Rykard hates the Golden Order Radagon supports
Rykard hates the Golden Order not due to Radagon but because of the Greater Will and their control over everything. His soldiers still wear scarlet red in symbol of his father but disliked the religion.
Ranni is close to her birth mother and stepmother but doesn't mention her birth father
Which is important, because she openly dislikes the Greater Will but doesn't talk ill about her father. Her spite is directed towards Marika and never Radagon.
Miquella broke from the GO because he couldn't find anything in the order that could help him cure Malenia
Exactly. Radagon was unable to help Malenia, which is why Miquella broke from it. It had nothing to do with Radagon.
 
You think they die with their specific demigod, which is why we always find them dead? As for them not having Fingers, I doubt that there wouldn't be some sort of counter measure against two potential gods in the Lands Between, especially one infected and connected to another Outer God.
Don't know but I doubt it. We know for sure Ranni had to kill them by herself and the ones we find atop the towers were already dead by the time we return to the LB yet the remaining Empyreans are still alive.
As for the Greater Will, it does seem rather lax with its influence over the Lands Between (the Golden Order is another matter).
Tbf, the Dark Moon is very chill (lol) so the GW pretty much has no reason to be that worried. No idea for why it seems to accept the Scarlet Rot though. But at the very least, Destined Death, the Frenzied Flame and the Fell God were directly targeted. The last in particular considering the GW ordered a species-wide genocide to get rid of it
 
Afaik that's more of a fan read without lore supplementation. Radahn modeled his armor both after Radagon and Godfrey and is also called a Golden Order fundamentalist. Indicating he still likes his father.

Rykard hates the Golden Order not due to Radagon but because of the Greater Will and their control over everything. His soldiers still wear scarlet red in symbol of his father but disliked the religion.

Which is important, because she openly dislikes the Greater Will but doesn't talk ill about her father. Her spite is directed towards Marika and never Radagon.
True for all that, though she doesn't seem to have any particular contempt for Marika herself, more for the GW and the GO
Exactly. Radagon was unable to help Malenia, which is why Miquella broke from it. It had nothing to do with Radagon.
What I meant is that the GO's power and knowledge were useless to Miquella, like you say it had nothing to do with Radagon, he wasn't the problem
 


ELDEN RING MIQUELLA DLC LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOO

It seems to me that Miquella was Torrent's previous master

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSS!!!!!!!
 
Looking at it further, that might be Marika. It would have to be Miquella in his child form, but that looks like an adult, and I think I see Marika's crown. Not to mention, they are riding Torrent, remember, Melina was Torrent's previous owner, and Marika is Melina's mother. It's fully plausible that Marika passed Torrent down to Melina, who then passed him to us.

My theory: This is the Lands Between before the age of the Golden Order. The big tree is the Erdtree before the GW's influence, perhaps the Crucible, which was already a theory for a while seeing as the Erdtree's model only has a golden surface layer, underneath that is a normal tree. Not to mention the plains look vaguely similar to the Altus Plateau.
 
I'm gonna wake up, get on YouTube, and see 100 videos between 5-30 minutes long about a single picture.

Also some people think it takes place after Frenzied Flame, doesn't seem likely though.
 
Some people are thinking the scope of this will be larger than we think due to the wording and name. They call it an "expansion", and the name of the DLC implies way more than just Miquella. Some people think it'll be equivalent to a sequel. Doubtful imo.
 
If we assume that the DLC is going to take place after the main game ending, then i think it's more likely to be the age of stars ending, since in every other endings bar lord of frenzied flame, it always end with "the fallen leave tell a story" implying that the tree isn't burned completely and would eventually regrow so it can't be it.
The picture show the tree seem to be burned, have no leaves and is leaking golden sap. So i have a feeling that it's more like the age of stars where the tree just end up being another resource since there's no longer any divinity tie to it and people start hacking it resulting in that crack.
The Frenzied ending wouldn't make much sense since the tree would just be completely dead and not be able to leak anything, not to mention that everything is burned to asses, the sky and environments is just choked with smoke which is not what we are seeing in the picture.
 
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