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Elden Ring General Discussion

I wonder if any callbacks to the first flame are going to be in Nightreign. Obviously it's marketed as an elden ring spinoff but with the knowledge that dark souls bosses are coming to it as well, I wonder if we'll be getting any new lore regarding the dark souls series. I hope so as a shared multiverse with elden ring would be so epic for scaling and for lore.
 
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Me praying that the last night lord gets a crazy ass statement about him creating, destroying, or combining an infinite amount of worlds for that sweet sweet 2A scaling
 
AnimesFreak2 said:




This is really dumb
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Oh yeah everyone doesn't like this lol.

Apparently it was for "balancing" reasons but I really think that's a poor excuse. Like FromSoft that's why you have a team to balance the enemies. Or...do you? That would certainly explain a lot.
 
Do you think the Primeval Current and the Lightless Abyss are the same thing?

Primeval Current description in Primeval sorceries:
When Azur glimpsed into the primeval current, he saw darkness. He was left both bewitched and fearful of the abyss.
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When Lusat glimpsed into the primeval current, he beheld the final moments of a great star cluster, and upon seeing it, he too was broken.
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Thought to be the founding glintstone sorcery. The glimpse of the
primeval current that the astrologer saw became real, and the
stars' amber rained down on this land.
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Lightless Abyss description in Ymir Hat, Gravitational Missile and Astel Remembrance:
The hat of Count Ymir, High Priest. The circular design at the top represents the Greater Will and its lightless abyss
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Said to have originated in the lightless dark far beyond—the home of the fallingstar beasts.
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A malformed star born in the lightless void far away. Once destroyed an Eternal City and took away their sky. A falling star of ill omen.
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Ser_Hakim_Dayne said:
Do you think the Primeval Current and the Lightless Abyss are the same thing?
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I don't really think so. From the item descriptions you provided it alawys seems like the primeval current was a thing that the sorcerers could bring close to them or just look into. And by doing so they saw a vision of space or were teleported there or something. But the lightless abyss is treated as a seperate physical place far away. A place where cosmic monsters come from.
 
So, two questions:

1. Can we start posting SOTE (Messmer, Rellana, etc)?
2. Shouldn't Radahn have more abilities in his Promised Consort key? Like, yeah most attacks were the result of Miquella empowering him but the luminous form and the light slashes at least are used by Radahn himself, unlike the light pillar/explosion for example. So maybe he should get an "Empowered by Miquella's light" key in his abilities tab.
3. Why, for the love of Darth Plagueis the Wise, why does the Promised Consort key still have that butt ugly, bad PNG for a pic?
 
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ArkhamDC06 said:
2. Shouldn't Radahn have more abilities in his Promised Consort key? Like, yeah most attacks were the result of Miquella empowering him but the luminous form and the light slashes at least are used by Radahn himself, unlike the light pillar/explosion for example. So maybe he should get an "Empowered by Miquella's light" key in his abilities tab.
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sounds good to me the rings of light, light of miquella, and all that other good stuff should be added. I mean he's backpacked onto Radahn for goodness sake. might as well make him standard equipment/j
3. Why, for the love of Darth Plagueis the Wise, why does the Promised Consort key still has that butt ugly, bad PNG for a pic?
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idk man if you got that second image from the last time this was discussed without that weird blue glow I say go ahead and change it.
 
I think it would be much better if a calculation for Tier 4 was redone but without using the cutscene after the Radahn's boss fight like this one.
The "stars" seen in the cutscene are obviously meteorites, not stars.
 
Meteorscourge Radahn, master of small to large rocks, his power so great he can arrest the movements of some rocks in the sky, these powerful floating rocks can control the fates of the Demigods themselves!
 
I mean they're called shooting stars so the white streaks we see in the sky are indeed meteors, but this shouldn't matter since both Sellen and Iji confirm Radahn also stopped constellations and as far as I know, meteors can't form constellations.
 
Thiag125 said:
I mean they're called shooting stars so the white streaks we see in the sky are indeed meteors, but this shouldn't matter since both Sellen and Iji confirm Radahn also stopped constellations and as far as I know, meteors can't form constellations.
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technically the constellation kanji wasn't in the raw Japanese text, however Miyazaki is there when the VAs record as conformed by multiple VAs. Meaning he heard the constellations line and green lit it. So that whole thing is kinda weird. I personally like to use the preceptors set for the star justification since it clearly has balls of fire that are labeled stars and that it depicts their movements which once carried fate.

But also if we instead assume that Radahn stopped every star in the night sky that clearly makes him multi galaxy level as some "stars" in the night sky are actually galaxies.(see Andromeda galaxy) thus Radahn and all those who scale are multi galaxy level/s
 
AnimesFreak2 said:
Too bad
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Blackcurrant91 said:
Meteorscourge Radahn, master of small to large rocks, his power so great he can arrest the movements of some rocks in the sky, these powerful floating rocks can control the fates of the Demigods themselves!
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Thiag125 said:
I mean they're called shooting stars so the white streaks we see in the sky are indeed meteors, but this shouldn't matter since both Sellen and Iji confirm Radahn also stopped constellations and as far as I know, meteors can't form constellations.
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I agree with Radahn who held back actual stars yes (I mean, I even did that).
What I said is that we should not use this calc for the statistic value and the justification of Tier 4, because what we see in the cutscene of the calc is not actual stars.

AnimesFreak2 said:
We shall have 1-A Elden Ring
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Is this really a thing or is this a joke btw?

Latin_Rhythms said:
But also if we instead assume that Radahn stopped every star in the night sky that clearly makes him multi galaxy level as some "stars" in the night sky are actually galaxies.(see Andromeda galaxy) thus Radahn and all those who scale are multi galaxy level/s
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Indeed
 
ArkhamDC06 said:
Why do they need a rework?
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Most of them lack sources, references and powers and abilities, and I also plan minor stuff like rewording some stats/intelligence justifications. All resistances via gameplay mechanics should also be removed.
I also plan to make profiles for other characters that still don't have them (Tarnished, Ranni, Godwyn, Miquella, Placidusax, Fortissax, etc).
 
Ser_Hakim_Dayne said:
Most of them lack sources, references and powers and abilities, and I also plan minor stuff like rewording some stats/intelligence justifications. All resistances via gameplay mechanics should also be removed.
I also plan to make profiles for other characters that still don't have them (Tarnished, Ranni, Godwyn, Miquella, Placidusax, Fortissax, etc).
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Yeah, the Godfrey page is kinda wack. He does not have astral projection nor did he ever beat the "king" of the fire giant. Nor did he ever ascend to "godhood".

That last one however I can kinda see where the idea came from. Godrick's Great Rune says that the first demigods were Godfrey and the Golden lineage, However, I'm pretty sure that just means worshiped/treated as such(besides the actual offspring of Marika who would be legit demigods). Since becoming Elden lord and ascending to a higher tier of existence such as becoming a demi-god is never mentioned again.

Neither for the player who would become Elden lord or Radagon who did become Elden lord. Plus the children of Radagon became considered demigod stepchildren after Radagon became the second Elden lord. In the end, they're considered and treated as demi-gods but "biologically" speaking they shouldn't be classified as such since they were born of the human Rennala and the weird grey area that is Radagon(definitely not a God tho). Unlike Morrgoat and Wohg who are direct offspring of the goddess Marika and thus have every reason to be called and classified as demigods.
 
Latin_Rhythms said:
yeah, the Godfrey page is kinda wack. He does not have astral projection nor did he ever beat the "king" of the fire giant.
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Yeah. The first one is just a projection created by Morgott (like Margit) and the second one is just speculation.

Latin_Rhythms said:
Nor did he ever ascend to "godhood".

That last one however I can kinda see where the idea came from. Godrick's Great Rune says that the first demigods were Godfrey and the Golden lineage, However, I'm pretty sure that just means worshiped/treated as such(besides the actual offspring of Marika who would be legit demigods). Since becoming Elden lord and ascending to a higher tier of existence such as becoming a demi-god is never mentioned again.

Neither for the player who would become Elden lord or Radagon who did become Elden lord. Plus the children of Radagon became considered demigod stepchildren after Radagon became the second Elden lord. In the end, they're considered and treated as demi-gods but "biologically" speaking they shouldn't be classified as such since they were born of the human Rennala and the weird grey area that is Radagon(definitely not a God tho). Unlike Morrgoat and Wohg who are direct offspring of the goddess Marika and thus have every reason to be called demigods.
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At this point it could just mean that "Demi-God" is just a title, not an actual power.
Also, Rennala should not have a 4-A rating via scaling with Radagon, he was not yet a God at this point in the timeline
 
Latin_Rhythms said:
yup, that was I was getting at.(besides ya know the kids of Marika, the actual God)
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I was also talking about Marika's children. I think "Demigod" is just a title for them too (even Godfrey was called a demigod). Radahn, Ranni, and Rykard are also Marika's children, because Radagon is Marika.
 
Yh Demigod in Elden Ring is definitely related more to status than blood. The moment you become related to Marika in any significant way, you're a demigod
 
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