Do we have a calc for that feat somewhere? I remember running the numbers a while ago and getting a different value, but 7-C+ seems pretty specific for an estimate.
I just used the earthquake magnitude chart. Encleadus shook the entire mountain, which stretches over an entire kilometer. This would be roughly a Magnitude 6.5 Earthquake, which is 84 Kilotons or 7-C+
Idk about using the 10 times thing literally. Jason expressed some difficulty with handling Enceladus's strength. I can't see him then going on to fight people 10 times stronger and not being completely overpowered. Also since we're scaling Enceladus to Jason to make him 7-B in the first place, it doesn't make sense to then say Jason's durability was actually 10 times higher than Enceladus's AP the whole time.
Tbf Jason could have gotten stronger from The Lost Hero to Blood of Olympus
What about the fights with giants between those books? The scaling issue still exists. Not to mention the 7-A calc probably doesn't scale to any of the giants since it was basically him pushing his limits to the limit. He's never pushed himself so hard before or after that fight.
Yeah I don’t think the weather calc scales to the giants
The way I see it, Jason wasn’t at his full pinnacle of power since he was still obtaining his memory back in Lost Hero. So, he can keep his 7-B key from Last Olympian to Lost Hero, and have a 7-A key for the later books of HOO
Why exactly does affecting a km distance automatically equate to magnitude 6.5? Lesser earthquakes have that kind of Aoe all the time.
According to the Richter scale, extreme shaking at a huge distance is a sign of a high magnitude
Wasn't Leo like, a few feet away from Enceladus? He's very close to the epicenter. And again, 1km isn't a crazy high range for an earthquake to affect. The intensity of the shaking is completely unknown at a 1 km distance. At best we can say that it knocked Leo to the ground by being a few feet from the epicenter. Idk if that requires magnitude 6.5 or not.
Leo was between the bulldozer and the tree harvester, which are both near the end of the clearing. Enceladus is presumably at the center of the clearing since he was at the bonfire. Said clearing was football field sized, so he was a decent distance away.
Yeah Leo was sent flying from essentially a football field’s distance. This is definitely Magnitude 6 or 6.5
Source?
At the same time tho, anything below 6.0 is described as “at MOST slight damage to buildings in small regions”. So, it has to be somewhere in the ballpark
I think the calcs still need to be approved and a few things are discussed still
Which calculation? I can ask for help if you link to it.
There are these calcs. Though they weren't put on a blog yet so we probably should do that
Yes, that definitely needs to be done.
So about this
No, it isn't. This has already been discussed and refuted to death. To quote me from a few pages back:
In a nutshell, we have ample proof that the Greco-Roman deities don't affect real stars, instead only placing "stars" on a sky that's a dome over the Earth that exists alongside the scientific sky and is hidden by the Mist in the same way Apollo and Artemis's chariots are. If you keep repeating tired old debunked points, I'll have to submit some discussion rules banning trying to upgrade Greco-Roman deities based on these star feats.
They're Tier 5 for sure due to Gaea being the Earth and the others scaling to her, but Tier 4 and Tier 3 have been thoroughly debunked, save for Chaos, who's Low 2-C for existing as the spacetime continuum from which everything sprung.
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Chaos should be at least 2-C, for birthing the whole cosmology which consists of multiple other worlds, including the Duat as well as the 9 realms intertwined with Yggdrasil.
Seems good to me but you should put it on that thread and request someone from the calc group to look at itSo I blogged that earthquake feat from before.Enceladus Shakes a Mountain (Riordanverse calc)
No. Our current page treats Chaos from Greco-Roman mythology, the Sea of Chaos from Egyptian mythology, and Ginnungagap from Norse mythology as the same entity, which is obviously not the case. Greco-Roman Chaos is Low 2-C, and you'd have to prove the Duat and/or 9 Realms are separate universes for their versions of the primordial void to be 2-C.
This would just be a supporting feat, but from what the feat seems to be, Jason was fully capable of deflecting the strike. It’s just that the blade grazed his shoulder, and idk if the giant’s blade is celestial bronze or not or if it has some properties, but it seems like that was what made his arm go numb
There's a lot of evidence pointing to them all being the same primordial existence (entity is a bit much to apply to a thing that is a place that hasn't actually ever displayed sentience). These cosmologies aren't as separated as you think. The Mist, which is part of the Duat and exists throughout the Greek world is directly stated to be part of Ginnungagap. Apollo describes Chaos as a churning mass which is similar to how Carter describes the Sea. Ginnungap is referred to as a mist, which both Chaos and the Sea are referred to as on multiple occasions. It would be weird to have 3 separate primordial voids that all exist at the same time in the same cosmology while also having similar visual representations and qualities. 3 voids wouldn't make much sense in the setting either, because these are also physical places. Having multiple pantheons with gods to embody these things doesn't make more copies of that place. We have multiple Earth gods, but not multiple Earths for example. Let's leave this here though. We can have a prolonged argument where I provide scans for everything in a thread specifically detailing revisions to the Chaos page on some other occasion.
Okay, if you can provide sufficient proof.
In general I'm curious how the other Gods stack up against each other and if any are outdated
So, small city level striking for high tier demigods? Or do we have better feats?
Every single page in the verse is outdated, that's kind of why we're doing this.
