Dragonborn vs the sovereign of life

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Hei Dawu)

The Dovahkii

Speed Equal, High 3-A Hei.

Dovah has the the daedric artifacts, since he'll probably need them.

 

[Faruel1998]

dovahkiin wins through mind hax as bend will and soul hax as soul tear.

 

[FloweryAlex]

Bai says "No U" in 1-B conceptual resistance.

 

[Paul_Frank]

Dovahkiin says yes u in high 1-B shouts

 

[FloweryAlex]

Bai says No Uin possibly to-be 1-A fingerling technique.

 

[Waria_Kambang]

Staff of Magnus Low 1-C power nullification GG.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Jokes aside, Bai is reliant on a 1-B concept, and even Ultima agreed that his erasure is 1-A.

So neither of those are getting nulled, if nothing else.

 

[Keeweed]

Ok why is this not a stomp. You put a character with 1-A and 1-B attacks against a regular low 2-C and thought this was going to end well? Bai stands there and passively kill the Dovahkiin a trillion times worse than when we had Arceus do it.

( Just a reminder that the Dovahkiin lost to this guy just because he had the ap advantage, and got his ass handed to him by this guy, also through sheer ap, so why do people think the Dovahkiin has chance here when he lost twice due to sheer ap and nothing else (and yes I know you did technically win against the Ebony Warrior but it was so barely to the point it might as well count as a loss))

 

[FloweryAlex]

Because Dovah can just kill him with his AP, at least with his shouts.

 

[Keeweed]

Except he has immortality which I think is based off a 1-B source so no he can't kill him with ap

Edit: going biking right now so I won't be able to respond

 

[FloweryAlex]

Well technically he'll be alive, but he would be BFR'd by virtue of ressurection in another dimension.

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

Why does being reliant on a 1-B concept mean he resists mind hax?

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

''Also Dovahkiin could just use tower dancin on par with marukhati selective to manipulate the whole Aubris to destroy the concept ezy.''

 

[FloweryAlex]

Not because he is reliant. Because of his invulnerability based on conceptual resistance stuff.

That is not how it gets written in English so I not understand that very much.

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

Is it because this "Connected to every living being, and reality itself, allowing him control over the world and every living being that is not trained in Willpower on "a fundamental level" (Not orthodox willpower, but a fundamental concept that everything that exists shares)"

 

[FloweryAlex]

No, it's because of Invulnerability (Each of their defenses and attacks contain essence, making them immune to any normal attack)

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

Well that's a bit vague but I think I understand when connecting that to concepts. Is "essence" like conceptual stuff?

 

[FloweryAlex]

Yes, essence is the platonic concept of... whatever it rap resents (essence of time, essence of space, etc.)

 

[Keeweed]

Why does being reliant on a 1-B concept mean he resists mind hax?

No it doesn't stop mind hax but the Dovahkiin has to say pretty much half a sentence to pull of mind hax and it has to travel to Bai while all Bai needs to do is look in the Dovahkiin's general direction and the Dovahkiin is obliterated.

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

Yeah and apparently this dude is invulnerable to non-conceptual attacks. So if you don't want to say Thu'um attacks are conceptual it wouldn't work anyway.

 

[FloweryAlex]

Wait what?

Bai would either need to trap Dovah into the universe caulduron, which he could just break, or use finger of allheaven, which consumes a third of his lifetime, to even hurt the guy.

He is only High 3-A you guys.

 

[Keeweed]

A high 3-A with 1-A erasure and a 1-B attack. If both of those attacks are out of character or are hard to pull off than he either gets stomped or he has a way to not die in which case he stomps. This is a mismatch no matter what.

 

[FloweryAlex]

No. He has one 1-A erasure. He hasn't got any 1-B attacks.

And again, 1-A erasure consumes half of his life, so not something that will be used unless needed.

 

[Keeweed]

Ok now I see that the 1-B is just what that key's Tier may be; which is a ridiculous large jump 3-A possibly 1-B: like how did he manage that.

Anyways this maybe a stomp in the other direction if he gets bfr'd when resurrecting and doesn't actually use the 1-A attack. I'm voting mismatch because either the Dovahkiin can't kill him and is obliterated or he can kill him and Bai dies horribly.

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

This dude reminds me of Sun Wukong.

 

[FloweryAlex]

The author was being vague in this book, so it's unknown if he scales to guys that can embody 1-B concepts or not.

Being able to win but not doing so because of mentality isn't a stomp by definition.

Anyways, this hinges on the fact that Dragonborn starts with tonal magic or not. If he doesn't, Han figures out he's too strong and kills him.

 

[Ogbunabali]

If his only higher tiered hax is the 1-A EE and he doesn't lead with it Dovahkiin no diffs.

 

[Keeweed]

He technically starts with everything actually due to being a Elder Scrolls Prisoner, or at least that's how I think it works, other people have also said that and nobody has said that's wrong, but I never like to 100% assume unless it comes to things like 1-A vs low 2-C, but as I can now see I probably jumped the gun on that one.

 

[Waria_Kambang]

The author was being vague in this book, so it's unknown if he scales to guys that can embody 1-B concepts or not.

Being able to win but not doing so because of mentality isn't a stomp by definition.

Anyways, this hinges on the fact that Dragonborn starts with tonal magic or not. If he doesn't, Han figures out he's too strong and kills him.

Tonal Magic is like his primary fighting method. I'm pretty sure the Dovahkiin will start with it.

 

[Waria_Kambang]

Bump.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

He starts with anything that gives him the win.