No one trew any ki blast tho, and it looks just like a light to me, a light that came out of the explosion if you will
I don't think that there was anyone noteworthy in the afterlife at the time to really noticed that, plus we can clearly see in tje explosiom scene that it wasn't entirely in hell
You're extrapolating that based on nothing. All we know is that it signaled to Goten and Trunks that their dads fused, and that it looks different from the Big Bang event itself.
King Yemma was there, I know that much.
kaioshin realm is accepted now btw, the afterlife calc was accepted now to be 2.1 million times bigger than baseline 3-A because of heaven, makes kaioshin realm uni in size. And yeah, DOSL also had other dimensions inside of it as well, definitely a uni+ structure, seeming as which you stated above, so be called super dimensonal, an extra dimensional space if i recall, and with no other size to go on, this is the most likely interpretation.
Can you link the calc?
She is also portrayed in math form, bro
The explosion emited light, and then we saw a light like thing go to the living universe, it looks simple to me
Inside his palace, surrounded by a barrier
But it is very clear, dunno what to tell you
universal in size is the one with no evidene, it is as aebotrary as any other possible size
Ddm said he agreed on 3, that being the kaioshin realm, the aftelife and the living universe, if you want more clarification ask for him to come back here
I covered in the op why all the statements such as "super dimensional" are not really talking about the dimension itself, do you still sae that amd still disagree? To clarify
no? Where are you getting this from? First time hearing something like that
Or that it is a higher dimensional place, which tells nothing about the size of it
bruh I’ve told him to fix that so many times I’m surprised he hasn’t done it yet
Yeah, some things wrong lol
huh, could swear that he had, i am not being disonest, i merely made a mistake
i will update it when i have time, but dude i presented counter arguments for the said debunks, i will not remove them just because you believe they were "refuted completely", is it so hard for people to just wait for staff to come here and evaluate?
? We’re not talking about the demon realm we’re talking about Hell Griffin never said anything about Hell the only person who said anything was Ddm and he said hell was 3-A sized
i meant to say hell
Does the light look the same as that of the Big Bang event?
Still in the Afterlife, so if it leaked over, he would've taken notice
It's very clear in your mind, but... not to anyone else
It looks similar to me
The light would not have reached him for him to notice, he was inside his office and iside one of the jelly bean like bubbles, i don't see how the light would have reached there
Not even the same color. One's a clearer color, like what you'd expect from seeing stars in the night sky. The other is pure yellow.
The barrier isn't solidly colored, it's transparent. The light wouldn't have gone inside the barrier, no, but he would've seen it from within said barrier
What do you think all of this is? I'm explaining how the Big Bang event was contained in Hell, as there's absolutely nothing showing that it reached the Afterlife, the Living Universe, etc.
Both look yellow
No tou are not, the lack of evidence for 1 is not evidence for the other, we have no proof that it was contained in hell as much as we have no proof that it wasn't, making this point very moot
In the way the scene is displayed it only make sense to be the light, no one trew a ki blast to the living universe. What else could it be?
One looks starry, the other looks like a regular ass ki blast
Gogeta is in Hell, so that's where it originates from. If there's nothing of it present in anywhere beyond Hell, and Gogeta (the center of the event) is in Hell, what does that mean?
A sort of energy signal. Perhaps a visualization of Goten and Trunks feeling Gogeta's energy. Hell, even looking at the scene, it's not even as if anything leaked over into the Living Universe. They just felt something, as shown by the lack of any sort of change in the Living Universe from this Big Bang event
One looks like light, the other also looks like light, we are starting to repeat ourselves in this point, so let us just agree to disagree on this and let the admin/mods decide alright?
how do you know this?
Considering that in the movie the afterlife is pretty close to hell, i would say That a universal explosion reached there when both are so close and one is visible from the ground of the other
That effect also happened for the big bang itself
That's literally what I've been explaining the whole time what-
This is all conjectural. The fact of the matter is that the event is never shown reaching up into the Afterlife. So if it's a universal explosion but it's never shown anywhere except its origin of Hell (via Gogeta), that means Hell can be reasonably assumed to be universal in size
What effect?
Well, considering that the afterlife was extremely "seconds of fall away" from hell in the movie, we know for sure that a universal explosion would have reached there
The screen going black doesn't mean they're the same thing. The Big Bang effect actually shows the spiral that is the effect, and the light that's emitted from it is more akin to blue starlight. Neither of these are shown in the Goten and Trunks moment
in that scene they were in emma's palace, in the afterlife
Janemba was litterally just falling, you would need to provide evidence if you want to affirm that they fell for lightyears there
What are yo-? Oh shit, i linked the wrong time frame, it is in 1m35s
Blue starlight?
Here
But it was in hell, just take a good look at the context, this is shown during the movie
Then why is it shown in a starry sky during it?
To show the whole concept by creating a Big Bang of course, you'll say it's hyperbole or symbolic
The explosion happened and we saw a completely different scenario from hell when we have the shot from it from afar, i say that this is proof enough that it expanded far above just hell, seen as we see a completely different backgroumd from it
Chillyou'll say it's hyperbole or symbolic
Omega and his contradicting theories, not once is his energy shown coming out of hell lol
the afterlife is extremely close to hell spatially in the move, a few seconds fall difference, so it would obviously get to there, we also see that it got out of hell as the background of where the explosion takes place is not only hell, but the cosmos with stars and the blackness of outer space
fixed
As much as i would like to end this also, we would need more staff input, since we neither evaluation rights staff disagreements nor 3 votes in favor of of the realms
