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If DDM thinks Hell is 3-A sized then it would qualify since the op isn’t disagreeing with the fact that It’s a separate space time
so the only thing we need DDM‘s comment on is demon realm did DDM comment on DOSSL?
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Dragon Ball universal space time number downgrade
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so the only thing we need DDM‘s comment on is demon realm did DDM comment on DOSSL?
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Hehehe, you're good at this bro
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I agree with the removal of Demon Realm.
I'm neutral on the removal of Kaioshin Realm and Dimension of Swirling Light, both of them be removed or not is fine with me
I'm neutral on the removal of Kaioshin Realm and Dimension of Swirling Light, both of them be removed or not is fine with me
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Thus his position in the vote count
Based on a rejected map, we shall wait for him to comment again to clear things, since we can't really accept votes that are based on rejected topics
Again, only with rejected topics like the map
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Uh check your vote count you listed Griffin under Hell and demon realm and not demon realm and Kaio realm
I sent that one scan showing it divided by 3 realms as well so his vote should still be valid if that’s his stance but if you can get him to comment thats even better
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Huh? Oh, okay then
He was talking about the rejected map and not the thing you brought up, also pretty sure that is sti using the rejectef map, could you bring the entire page here please?
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this I think its from one’s of the Daizenshuus iirc
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updated
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what's your position now you still on 3 or 5
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So it really is using the rejectef macrocosm map, oh well i will still disagree with using it conpletely then, also the part used is not really talking about size but what dimensions it have
They are not really neutrals, at least put griffin as (leaning towards removing hell) since this was what he said and DDM as (agrees on 3 universal space times minimum) and for both put (waiting for further elaboration for their parts)
We have to be extremely clear on their input, even if they are "neutral" which here really is (waiting further input)
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Probably neutral on Kaioshin realm since the Calc and then demon realm so probably just
how is it using the macrocosm map? The macrocosm map is on the same page but thats all
you can put Griffin as neutral for the other stuff since he never gave a response to them but he didn’t say he was leaning towards agreeing he said one message where he said he could possibly see demon realm and Kaiōshin realm going but he’s not knowledgeable enough for the rest of the macrocosm
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It is litterally using it, it even has arrows poiting to it, showing that it is just describing what is being shown there
Also that illustration is saying that hell is in the same physical dimention as the afterlife, even saying that it is physically bellow, which would contradict the series showing that it is another space time
Yeah, hence the "leaning towards removing the demon realm" part
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It’s pointing to the afterlife and showing us the 3 realms of the afterlife that’s not using the macrocosm map
You must be mixing up hell and the demon realm because you said you were putting “leaning towards hell” but he only commented on demon realm and kaioshin realm
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Using the macrocosm map as a basis, showing by the arrows pointing to it
Also you could address this:
Since it threats it in the same way it does to the "kaio" realm which is physically connected to the afterlife, so if you use thst as evidencw you would need to say thst hell is not a separated space time
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So the deal apparently will be 5 Time Spaces, Kaioshin Realm, Living World, Other World, The lights of Gogeta vs Broly and Hell correct? I just have a question, I know it's been discussed, but I'm short on time here, isn't the Kingdom of the Kaioshins only 1/10 the size of the universe? Wouldn't that be insufficient? Or do we find another quote that says about your size? By the way, the Cosmology Blog used is quite outdated
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It's 1/10th the size of the macrocosm, The Afterlife which has 2
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It is 1/10 of the afterlife and living universe, not all of the macrocosm
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It literally says "1/10 the size of the macrocosm" in the scan sent. That's pretty blatant so idk how you're gonna go against that
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oh, the last image didn't appeared to me for some reason, nvm then
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Not to burst anyones bubble or something but the last scan looks like something straight from kanzenshuu. What's the source for it?
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Damn, that's rough
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Idk if it is take a look:
Dragon Ball Gods & Cosmos Guide | The Universe - Kanzenshuu
www.kanzenshuu.com
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but it would not include any other realm
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Which would only be the Swirling Lights Dimension. It would still scale to Hell, Heaven and the unoccupied space of the Afterlife.
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hell as another space time would not be part of the afterlife at all, also heaven and the so called "unocupied space" are part of the afterlife, so they would be included per default
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we go by this the Kaioshin Realm would simply be 1/10th of thisYeah, I'm referring to a diff one
I think it's safe to say this division would be pretty redundant if Hell were smaller than individual sections of the other realms like Heaven
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Isn't it directly stated to be 1/10 of the afterlife and the living universe?
The "entire macrocosm" bit seems to not be sourced as pointed out by:
Honestly it is so minor that we could just ignore it
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Agree with 5
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Still waiting for more staff input
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can you call more staff here so we can finish this up?
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Demon realm is the only one without a verifiable size, the rest are legit
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UPDATE
So the Grand Kaioshin Realm has recently been accepted as another Low 2-C Universe in the Macrocosm. This now puts an additional universe on the map so those of us who were voting for 5 Universes we now are back at 6 and really this makes this thread more or less unnecessary since we can replace the Demon Realm with Grand Kai's Planet.
So without contention
Living Realm, Grand Kai Planet, After Life(Including Heaven) are currently accepted with no issue, with most of us all pretty much agreeing with the Swirling Lights, Kaioshin Realm and Hell (though Hell seems to have the most contention). The two latter will soon not matter because of a rescale of the Afterlife that if is accepted (Which is highly likely due to the Afterlife no longer being infinite and the standards being changed). Luffy's thread for the Swirling Lights dimension and his debate here has been agreed on by 3 staff members in this thread alone with them just being neutral on the aforementioned two.
So with that being said this really doesn't need to go on
So the Grand Kaioshin Realm has recently been accepted as another Low 2-C Universe in the Macrocosm. This now puts an additional universe on the map so those of us who were voting for 5 Universes we now are back at 6 and really this makes this thread more or less unnecessary since we can replace the Demon Realm with Grand Kai's Planet.
So without contention
Living Realm, Grand Kai Planet, After Life(Including Heaven) are currently accepted with no issue, with most of us all pretty much agreeing with the Swirling Lights, Kaioshin Realm and Hell (though Hell seems to have the most contention). The two latter will soon not matter because of a rescale of the Afterlife that if is accepted (Which is highly likely due to the Afterlife no longer being infinite and the standards being changed). Luffy's thread for the Swirling Lights dimension and his debate here has been agreed on by 3 staff members in this thread alone with them just being neutral on the aforementioned two.
So with that being said this really doesn't need to go on
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We still need staff evaluation about that, hell and DOSL didn't had evaluation right aproval to say that they would stay, we need to wait, be patient
the size of the afterlife would not matter to hell at all, for reasons i already explained here and in the OP
it was not tho? The only 2 admins with evaluation rights that comented were DDM and Griffin, no evaluation rights staff even commented on his explanation
there is no agreement on the DOSL staying yet, there is no staff comment on ot in fact
Considering that we had no solid staff evaluation yet, no, we need this to continue, don't try to rush it
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can i have the thread where is was accepted? EDIT: Found it nvm
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Basically, Grand Kai World replaces the Demon Realm
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