Dragon Ball Super: The Dragon of God Revision

[Vietthai96]

Okay it me again, for another Dragon Ball revision thread. The star of this time is big yellow serpent- i mean Dragon

First is the feat to upgrade:




Those 2 videos above are the total sum up of the time Super Shenron appear. So what new thing he should have, we come to the second part of this thread

Second is what addition he will have

Immortality Type 1 - this is possibility though cuz he predate all dragon

Size Manipulation - as we can see in two videos that he appear in different size, that mean he can manipulating his own size to fit the environment he in, the first time he appear at the end of U6 vs U7 arc he constantly increases his size until he reach type 7; in ToP he just as large as the fighting stage

Large Size (Varies, up to Type 7) - well with his ability to grow or change his size, i think varies, up to type 7 is better to describe his ability and his size

Light Manipulation - We can see that his body can glow blinding light when he first appear, the second time he generated multiples light particle around the fighting stage, he even pull then back after Grand Priest done his wish

Incorporealilty - After GP done his wish, we can see that he turn into small yellow light ball and then change form as in the second video, that mean he can turn his own body into pure light

Wish Granting description will be extended - Can grant any wish across the twelve universes, granted abilities like Immortality and Regeneration [Mid-High], etc....Should be capable of granting wish that other dragons can grant

Soul Manipulation?? - He switch Goku and Zamasu body, i think this somewhat fall under soul manipulation

This is all, thank you all very much for participating my CRT ^^

 

[KingTempest]

Immortality Type 1 - this is possibility though cuz he predate all dragon

This could just be longevity

 

[StekFence]

I mean, apart from the immortality, looks good to me

 

[Vietthai96]

This could just be longevity

hmmm, i can understand your point, but this scale from other shenron and they have immortality

what are your thought about other abilities

 

[StekFence]

hmmm, i can understand your point, but this scale from other shenron and they have immortality

Oh well if they do, then that would make sense as this guy is basically shenron but more shenron.

 

[CheatHydra]

Looks good to me. Want to see some more opinions tho so following.

 

[KingTempest]

hmmm, i can understand your point, but this scale from other shenron and they have immortality

Oh really?

Nevermind then. If they have it then Super Shenron should as well.

what are your thought about other abilities

Those are all fine

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Not sure about Incorporeality, sounds more like transformation and elemental intangibility. But the rest look fine.

 

[SamanPatou]

Almost everything is good.

I agree with DDM on intangibility.

What's the reason for the other dragons to have Immortality instead of longevity?
I only remember them having been around for a very long time.

 

[Vietthai96]

I need to go to sleep now, i will reply later

 

[ProudLearner]

Wish Granting (Can grant any wish across the twelve universes which are the following: Life Manipulation, Matter Manipulation, Age Manipulation, Fusion Nullification, Soul Manipulation, Resurrection, Creation, Memory Erasure, Can grant Immortality (Type 1, 2, and 3), Void Manipulation (Undid Zeno's erasure of the multiverse))

New additions:

This one is controversial: Death Manipulation (Shenron cannot kill Vegeta and Nappa because they are stronger than their creator but with Super Shenron the limit is unknown)

Non-Physical Interaction

Sound Manipulation (His roar shook near by planets)

 

[Vietthai96]

Wish Granting (Can grant any wish across the twelve universes which are the following: Life Manipulation, Matter Manipulation, Age Manipulation, Fusion Nullification, Soul Manipulation, Resurrection, Creation, Memory Erasure, Can grant Immortality (Type 1, 2, and 3), Void Manipulation (Undid Zeno's erasure of the multiverse))

New additions:

This one is controversial: Death Manipulation (Shenron cannot kill Vegeta and Nappa because they are stronger than their creator but with Super Shenron the limit is unknown)

Non-Physical Interaction

oh yeah, this also look very good, i also thing he should have Healing which scale from Porunga as he restore Goku energy in the end of Buu saga

About Immortality type, i think because they was called Eternal Dragon, also we saw nothing indicated they just long live, they always stay the same. Also Shenron depend on Dragon Balls, so if the Ball is eternal then they can have Immortality type 1

Not sure about Incorporeality, sounds more like transformation and elemental intangibility.

I doubt this, he actually turn into pure light which mean at that state he have no physical body, which is Incorporeality

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

A body of light is technically still a physical body; just not solid. It's a body of Macro Quantum particles called photons. Which is still more so an elementally intangible body rather than immaterial or abstract.

 

[Vietthai96]

A body of light is technically still a physical body; not just solid. It's a body of Macro Quantum particles called photons. Which is still more so an elementally intangible body rather than immaterial or abstract.

Oke, reasonable, also what do you think you stuff that ProudLearner suggest

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Stuff suggested by ProudLearner also make sense to me.

 

[ProudLearner]

Bump

 

[Vietthai96]

Also SS should have Teleportation scale from other Shenron, iirc Shenron capable of teleporting

 

[Tarang123]

Immortality Type 1 - this is possibility though cuz he predate all dragon

If the other dragons have type 1 immortality, then sure I can agree with that. Otherwise, I disagree with this point.

Size Manipulation - as we can see in two videos that he appear in different size, that mean he can manipulating his own size to fit the environment he in, the first time he appear at the end of U6 vs U7 arc he constantly increases his size until he reach type 7; in ToP he just as large as the fighting stage

I think that's just it fully forming. I don't think it's actively changing its size, but I think size manip could still work.

Incorporealilty - After GP done his wish, we can see that he turn into small yellow light ball and then change form as in the second video, that mean he can turn his own body into pure light

Wouldn't that be transformation rather than incorporeality?

Soul Manipulation?? - He switch Goku and Zamasu body, i think this somewhat fall under soul manipulation

Yeah, this should qualify for soul manipulation.

Also, does SS have power bestowal?

 

[Tarang123]

This one is controversial: Death Manipulation (Shenron cannot kill Vegeta and Nappa because they are stronger than their creator but with Super Shenron the limit is unknown)

Disagree. I think we need an actual showing of death manipulation before something like this can be implemented.

 

[Tarang123]

I doubt this, he actually turn into pure light which mean at that state he have no physical body, which is Incorporeality

Incorporeality would mean that he naturally has no physical body. He's just changing into actual light, which should just be intangibility and transformation. Would also be an extension of light manipulation.

 

[Tarang123]

Memory Erasure,

when did memory erasure happen? Is this scaling from Shenron or did SS actually show something like this

 

[Vietthai96]

when did memory erasure happen? Is this scaling from Shenron or did SS actually show something like this

Buu Saga, iirc Shenron was called to resurrect people and wipe their memory about the event of Buu

 

[Tarang123]

Buu Saga, iirc Shenron was called to resurrect people and wipe their memory about the event of Buu

Oh, then yeah memory manip should work

 

[Vietthai96]

oke so, if no one disagree, can we apply this change or need more staff input??, if it is the later then i will ask Ant to review

 

[Sus]

Agree with transformation and other things

Zeno complementing shenron shows how strong that guy is

 

[Sus]

Wouldn't this change his tiering though? We gave him AP and LS based on his size

 

[Vietthai96]

Zeno complementing shenron shows how strong that guy is

Actually Zeno said the Dragon can do anything, but that too NLF, but again it is safe to assume that he can do what all other dragon can do (except Toei stuff)

Wouldn't this change his tiering though? We gave him AP and LS based on his size

his tier is fine, this just revise his abilities

 

[YukaSama4]

We gave him AP and LS based on his size

No, he is 2C because he could restore all universes, not because of his size

 

[Sus]

Yeah, sure

Attack Potency: At least Multi-Galaxy level physically (Via sheer size alone). Low Multiverse level via granting wishes (Instantly restored the 7 universes that were erased by Zen'ō)

 

[Antvasima]

What Medeus, Saman, and KingTempest have accepted can probably be applied now, including what ProudLearner suggested.

 

[Vietthai96]

Well look like thing get accepted, but i ned to sleep now cuz midnight, i will return later to apply the revision

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. No problem. Tell us here when we should close this thread.

 

[Sus]

Should the rating just be "2C"?

 

[Vietthai96]

Okay. No problem. Tell us here when we should close this thread.

Well i'm done editting, i also add some more proof for his abilities, and add some new abilties like Teleportation, Healing because he should capable of doing Shenron and Porunga did in DBZ. And update his Intelligence as the following: Gifted, likely higher (As the Dragon predate Shenron and Porunga, he should have knowledges superior compare to the other two dragons). Well you can evaluate them, and if you find them unqualify then you can either remove or ask other to evaluate them.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I think that is probably fine, as I checked earlier, but it would be best if somebody is willing to further clean up the grammar of the page after Vietthai's edits.

 

[Vietthai96]

Okay. I think that is probably fine, as I checked earlier, but it would be best if somebody is willing to further clean up the grammar of the page after Vietthai's edits.

Look like Domino finish fixing grammar, i think you can close both the profile and this thread, thank you very much

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. No problem.