The assumption that GP "literally added space and time" to the realm is a very bold assumption in the face of this apparent contradiction. Nothing actually indicates that he does this, and I am generally opposed to resolving contradictions by writing an off-panel event to explain it.
Since you initially agreed with the thread, though, I'd like to ask you about something that was brought up.
The non-lore answer to these sorts of contradictions is usually that the author just did not take it into consideration. Like when two people are in space and are able to speak aloud to eachother even though there's no air to transfer the vibrations.
These are the two important questions I'd have for the opposition:
I wasn't going to get into it until I saw your comment
The preparation he did beforehand. It’s explicitly mentioned he took special care to prepare the ring and void itself for the Tournament. Thus, any alterations to the Void’s nature we can discern from before that moment and the Tournament itself can solely and ONLY be attributed to him.
Sort of. We clearly see that the rules of each person’s existence/home was taken into account for the sake of fairness. Hence why no one but those genetically predisposed via wings can fly, which is selectively applied to only the contestants. Even if the Void wasn’t stated to lack space and time, Hit himself would be utilizing Time Skip and Anniliaza was using Spatial attacks in a Dimension outside of the Main Space-Times within the Macrocosms (meaning Hit’s power would be affecting the Greater Timeline overarching all of the Space Times), or if not that, can operate outside of time. Especially since he would then be bringing his own personal time dimension wherever. Anailiza would be fine, though, admittedly, because there’s no indication that the WoV is “lacking in space.” Because that’s not something you can model visually.
Could you give more opinions here, because more arguments came up and i want to hear your opinions again.
Hit manages to remove time from the Universe and store it in its dimension, as mentioned by Vados
The way I see it is:
That doesn't work here, this is referring to people's thoughts. Unless the realm itself is sentient and the GP literally just went "this is what time is BTW," this interpretation makes little sense.Yeah this is pretty straightforward. Adding space and time to a space that lacks it is just spacetime manip. The phrase "lacking the concept of space" is applicable to any non-spatial realm, "lacking the concept of" its a common figure of speech. So common it has its entry in the Cambridge dictionary:
not have any concept/have no concept of something
1. to not understand about something: 2. to not understand about something:dictionary.cambridge.org
It's also commonly used as a matter of emphasis in fiction. I recall a spear that could essentially create a portal between itself and the intended target (so you stab forward and it still hits them basically anywhere they are) and it was described as having "no concept of distance." This wasn't literal, it was an expression.
You forgot to put the whole part, where the sentence says dimension where there is no concept of time and space
It doesn't convey, you're trying to distort the entire sentence to get where you want, which isn't true here.
My Google translator isn't very good, although i think he wants to say maybe it's a flowery phrase something like that, that's what i understood from my translator.
Quantu is right. I'm saying pretty much the same thing, that the World of Void is stated to be a dimension where "the concepts of space and time do not exist" - which isn't the phrasing that was argued to be hyperbolic
I believe he's on your side on that front
Whataboutism aside, this doesn't even act as an analogue. A weapon with the special ability to ignore distance, emphasized as having no concept of distance against a void with a blanket statement of "this is and place where the concepts of time and space don't exist ", there is no emphasis on anything, this is a massive reach.
Well, we clearly disagree on that part. But in any case I think using some foreign language version of a guidebook instead of the original Japanese is unjustifiable.
Bro, there is no version of this guide in Japanese.
That's still extremely sus. I'd never rely on a non-Japanese source for an anime or manga.
It's not Spain, it's Chile
this is a bad argument, because you have no basis for assuming the idiom works the same way in Japanese, which is a different culture and language.
What do you mean
If it means anything to you: El Manga Legendario is used for DB information since it was both published by and the text inside of it was produced by Shueisha themselves, so I can understand why it'd be used even though it's a non Japanese source.
It's a hard concept for americans like you to understand, but it's a thing in latin american countries like Chile
Well, that's not really a reason since there are DB things that for example Shueisha only makes outside of Japan.
Your evidence is a Spanish guidebook that restated the information from the anime (devoid of time and space) slightly differently (lacks the concepts of time and space).
Why are you acting like this is a hard concept for Americans to grasp? This comment just comes off as needlessly rude.
It's still an official source, friend.
How is it not good evidence lol, I feel like you personally just don't like it.
I wasn't offended. I get where you're coming from, I guess I assumed he was just trying to say "this isn't something with a direct USA analogue, so it might come off as odd or be hard to wrap your head around."
I'm pretty sure he didn't mean to be rude, just express that something like that doesn't exist in the United States, like here in Brazil and everywhere similar.
Literally how was he being rude? This is essentially just another way of saying that something is very different than anything normal in the states, so we might not fully understand it at first. There’s no need to hound the guy over a common phrase lol.
