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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 83

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UltimateFlare said:
Weird cause Vegeta has the exact same height and age.
Vegeta does actually grow a bit taller as an SSJ4

Same for Goku, in that form, he appears to be slightly taller than his regular self.
 
@zamasu well, you would think Whis or Zeno or someone else would comment that the universe was changed after that clash.
 
UltimateFlare said:
@zamasu well, you would think Whis or Zeno or someone else would comment that the universe was changed after that clash.
Same could be said when Zamasu and Black went around executing gods.
 
so far base gogeta was shown superior to SSB, but thats only due to the fact that in the movie that form doesnt make an appearance. ssj is when gogeta surpasses kaioken x20 and SSBE.

it can change if an anime adaptation is made.
 
Vegito's pitiful appearance in Zamasu arc suggests otherwise, heck Fused Zamasu himself wasn't that impressive compared to how Black alone was handling Goku and Vegeta.
 
Vegitos appearance wasnt pitiful, it was FT trunks who was wanked. SSB Vegito was more power than G. Fusion zamasu who was much more powerful than regular fusion zamasu who was more powerful than two ssblues at the time, and they kept improving in the episode. Yes, he was lack-luster compared to what gogeta showed, but iti far from pitiful,


but back to the topic, gogeta scales to SSB, not SSBE or SSBKK, because broly in ssj is just around 50x stronger than ssb goku and vegeta, based on the fact his ikari capped at SSB levels. if base Gogeta scaled to SSBE, then ssj gogeta would be over 1,000x stronger than ssb goku or vegeta.
 
Or it could be the fact that Goku is stronger than Vegeta, which would make sense if base Gogeta is so close to SSB Goku.
 
i wonder how it feels to suppresses your power so far below 1%. i dont think even us humans could do such a thing while fighting.


Merus is likely an angel from a destroyed universe. i dont think he is any weaker than current angels, but he is trying his best to not be busted, which he failed the moment he started training goku.


im interested in his situation.
 
Ovrhide said:
Vegitos appearance wasnt pitiful, it was FT trunks who was wanked. SSB Vegito was more power than G. Fusion zamasu who was much more powerful than regular fusion zamasu who was more powerful than two ssblues at the time, and they kept improving in the episode. Yes, he was lack-luster compared to what gogeta showed, but iti far from pitiful,


but back to the topic, gogeta scales to SSB, not SSBE or SSBKK, because broly in ssj is just around 50x stronger than ssb goku and vegeta, based on the fact his ikari capped at SSB levels. if base Gogeta scaled to SSBE, then ssj gogeta would be over 1,000x stronger than ssb goku or vegeta.
Fused Zamasu got screwed over by Goku alone, there is no indication zamasu's fapping arm made him thousands times stronger than before and Vegito was having issues even in blue form.

Blue Goku and Vegeta got dusted by Broly in 2 min and Gogeta was schooling the latter in SSJ alone.

Kefla's base was stronger than red Goku after he schooled the 2 girls and her raw full power surpassed even his UIS form.

Vegito was more than lackluster compared all other fusions.
 
You gotta understand that G. Zamasu still had an amp, to say he didn't get thousands of times stronger is an actually headcanon.
 
Goku overpowering Zamasu was BS because the combined strength of Vegeta and Trunks did nothing, and Vegeta alone was stronger than Goku back then. The Final Kamehameha also did nothing, so I assume that maybe Zamasu underestimated Goku. Zamasu could keep up with Vegetto before getting all buff'd, Vegetto even points out that Zamasu can't keep up in terms of speed after getting even bigger, something Zamasu could do before. And getting bigger and losing speed is a clear sign that he was getting more and more raw power.

Zamasu was the most troublesome opponent to deal with because his power grows each time his body is heavily damaged, and his body is immortal.

Broly and Kefla are just walking power levels.

2FOlZGE
 
So I am supposed to believe Trunks also got thousands of times stronger? Cuz thise insane power amps are thrown around so cheaply by the fans.

What so special about fusion then?
 
ZERO7772 said:
So I am supposed to believe Trunks also got thousands of times stronger? Cuz thise insane power amps are thrown around so cheaply by the fans.

What so special about fusion then?
Trunks was amped by the spirit bomb, and your beliefs are not an argument because I can't believe Frost is stronger than BoG SSG Goku.
 
Nah Trunks was tagging him before he even got the spirit bomb, and said spirit bomb was made of dead planet, half dead Goku and Vegeta, and 30 humans.
 
Ya'll think that's an insane power amp? How about Gohan regaining his Boo Saga power and then fight on par with Post FT arc Fusion Zamasu in roughly 9 hours of training lol.
 
I mean, even back then, power levels are bullshit.

Piccolo's fusion with Nail is absurd than any Zenkai boost in terms of power boost.
 
The Namek Saga showed perfectly well the nature of power as the plot demands. Piccolo grows enough to match Frieza but not fodderize him and die. Vegeta grows enough to not be killed in one hit by Frieza in his final form but still enough to get trashed around while he's playing around, and Goku grows powerful enough to match that same Frieza and has a transformation that perfectly multiplies his power enough to match full power Frieza without killing him in one casual blow.
 
UltimateFlare said:
I mean, even back then, power levels are bullshit.

Piccolo's fusion with Nail is absurd than any Zenkai boost in terms of power boost.
Not really nail praise big green power at the time and piccolo was training on king kai planet So his PL has to be something impressive considering it put him on the same level of second form freeza
 
A Stoned Orc said:
Unpopular (but likely correct) opinion: Power levels have always been an incoherent mess, because they're supposed to be.
No, they aren't and it's an absolutly wrong 'opinion' directly said false by the author, Toriyama said DIRECTLY he stopped using them because they gave away who would win the fight too easily.
 
Hell no one to this day can even explain the nonsense that was ribrianne where in Z you knew who was superior to who
 
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