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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

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Eh. GT’s are pretty bad to me, so I welcome replacements. Conversely, I think Maeda’s Turles is so good I don’t ever really want to see it replaced. Just depends.
 
memes aside does base cabba actually beat SS4 gogeta
No, due to upscaling from Buuhan by a **** ton compared to how much higher Cabba scales from BoG Goku

BoG SSG Goku = 1 Macrocosm
Goku becomes that strong in SSJ
Then Goku becomes 50x stronger (surpasses his SSJ self in Base)

Then in RoF Goku and Vegeta are equal, stronger than before (unknown value.)

Trained 3 years (stronger than before, unknown value).

Vegeta fights Cabba (they’re equal). So Cabba is like vaguely above 50x the BoG feat.

Comparatively, (Toei) Buuhan = 1 Macrocosm.

(Toei) Kid Buu is stronger, and Goku is about even to slightly superior in SSJ3.

In GT, Base Goku is about = to his previous SSJ3 self.

Or 400x the Buuhan feat.

Base U6 Cabba outright wouldn't get past Base GT Goku from the Black Star Saga, let alone fight SSJ4 Gogeta.

It's less funny though.
 
No, due to upscaling from Buuhan by a **** ton compared to how much higher Cabba scales from BoG Goku

BoG SSG Goku = 1 Macrocosm
Goku becomes that strong in SSJ
Then Goku becomes 50x stronger (surpasses his SSJ self in Base)

Then in RoF Goku and Vegeta are equal, stronger than before (unknown value.)

Trained 3 years (stronger than before, unknown value).

Vegeta fights Cabba (they’re equal). So Cabba is like vaguely above 50x the BoG feat.

Comparatively, (Toei) Buuhan = 1 Macrocosm.

(Toei) Kid Buu is stronger, and Goku is about even to slightly superior in SSJ3.

In GT, Base Goku is about = to his previous SSJ3 self.

Or 400x the Buuhan feat.

Base U6 Cabba outright wouldn't get past Base GT Goku from the Black Star Saga, let alone fight SSJ4 Gogeta.

It's less funny though.
my goat gtku
 
Interestingly, this guide treats the Z films about as canon as the filler and TV Specials (which are all anime-canon), as when it covers "the main characters of the Dragon Ball TV Series/Cartoon" and the "Locations of the Dragon Ball TV Series/Cartoon," (at least as far as Google Translate has given me) it references the films. Which makes a limited form of sense, because despite how we treat the films, they're canonically all one Timeline, as seen in Fusion Reborn.
 
memes aside does base cabba actually beat SS4 gogeta
via scaling(i dont buy Vswiki GT scaling claims) yes now does it makes sense that Goku unlocked a level of power that was beyond imagination and suddenly everyone else is at that level now no
 
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From all the estimates I've made it's anywhere from 500x to 32,000x but that's extra muddled by Goku likely getting a power boost from turning back into an adult. So I can see it's probably <32,000x
Iirc being a kid again didn't nerf his actual power, but it did increase his stamina drain making SSJ3 even less effective.
 
SS4 having a huge ass multiplier is kinda funny considering previous forms are not thay big of a multiplier
I've always felt like 4,000 was reasonable.

It's still got nothing on the god forms that take Goku to a literal different realm of strength. SSJG is like 20,000 at a LOWBALL estimate. Like bare minimum. Using that would make SSJB a 1,000,000x base form multiplier. And UI is vastly superior to that.
 
speaking of transformation multipliers, would golden frieza be ~ ss1 since frieza fought beyond god goku in base and ssb in gold?
 
speaking of transformation multipliers, would golden frieza be ~ ss1 since frieza fought beyond god goku in base and ssb in gold?
Seems like something only for the manga, but Idk if that's consistent

His anime counterpart should be a rough SSB increase though
 
ask this top of the strongest universe 7 would be fine black frezer goku gohan broly vegeta orange piccolo gamma 1 and 2 moro sagambo 17
As well as Gas, Granola, Cell Max and Beerus

Sagambo and 17 aren't that strong in comparison to current characters. Same could be said for Moro
 
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