Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

[Nullflowerblush]

Caulifla is able to predict and catch Goku’s IT punch.

She predicted Goku's movements and then countered after Goku emerged from teleportation and began initiating an attack.
Hell, she only turned to face Goku mere moments before they connected.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

This is Kaioshin's teleportation, which is faster than Goku's, I believe there is no counter argument for not being instantaneous.

 

[ArcaneAbyss]

Didn't whis straight up evade an IT by gogeta in the broly movie?

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Didn't whis straight up evade an IT by gogeta in the broly movie?

Yes

 

[Nullflowerblush]

This is Kaioshin's teleportation, which is faster than Goku's, I believe there is no counter argument for not being instantaneous.

It's not Kai Kai, but yeah.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

It's not Kai Kai, but yeah.

So let's do instant teleportation

 

[TiltedFN]

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Yes.

(2:41.)

Caulifla is able to predict and catch Goku’s IT punch.

im not seeing it man

 

[Kroneii1]

Why the hell wouldn't it be?

I remember that some people argued that the fact that Granolah can react in the middle of IT makes it not instantaneous, a thought that I don't really share.

 

[TiltedFN]

I remember that some people argued that the fact that Granolah can react in the middle of IT makes it not instantaneous, a thought that I don't really share.

That just upscales granolah lmao

 

[Kroneii1]

That just upscales granolah lmao

Yeah

 

[CryoTheMayo]

Why the hell wouldn't it be?

Yeah, I said the same. It still got rejected anyways. Because moving faster than 'instant' apparently isn't fast enough. It's pretty silly. I think I recall someone even claiming it was debunked by Gas taking 20 minutes to find Cereal which...

1) He only had one direction to the planet and would obviously take time to locate it (he even immediately warps to Cereal the very second he senses it)
2) DB has movement and combat speeds split (Infinite combat speed but finite travel speed isn't unreasonable)
3) Infinite Universe but don't tell anyone I said that

Didn't whis straight up evade an IT by gogeta in the broly movie?

Yup. It's very obvious too. Whis moves immediately before Gogeta even appears.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Yeah, I said the same. It still got rejected anyways. Because moving faster than 'instant' apparently isn't fast enough. It's pretty silly. I think I recall someone even claiming it was debunked by Gas taking 20 minutes to find Cereal which...

1) He only had one direction to the planet and would obviously take time to locate it (he even immediately warps to Cereal the very second he senses it)
2) DB has movement and combat speeds split (Infinite combat speed but finite travel speed isn't unreasonable)
3) Infinite Universe but don't tell anyone I said that


Yup. It's very obvious too. Whis moves immediately before Gogeta even appears.

I remember that God Of War has infinite combat speed, I think this is possible.

 

[Huesito88]

I remember that God Of War has infinite combat speed, I think this is possible.

What does that have anything to do with this thread?

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

What does that have anything to do with this thread?

 

[Nullflowerblush]

What does that have anything to do with this thread?

Personally, I began browsing the forum a little more comfortably once I realized nothing Luffy says really means much.

 

[StekFence]

How would one go about establishing if it means just a very short time frame, or an actual infinitely small timeframe tho

 

[RedReaper616]

I wonder—How will Toyotarou approach Dr. Slump? He’s been made the Successor of Dragon Ball, but Penguin Village and all that comes with it exists in the Dragon World, so wouldn’t it mean he’s also, by proxy, the Successor to Dr. Slump? I mention this because, for as much as I trust him to continue Dragon Ball Super, I don’t think he has the capacity for Toriyama’s humor. I also don’t think I’ve ever seen Toyo ever draw anything on the more silly side of Toriyama’s designs, either. The closest was probably the newer art of Beelzebub, and while much closer to Dr. Slump, it’s definitely nowhere close to the real thing. Plus, most of those pieces are high definition/large scale pieces in terms of shading, coloring, etc., compared to what we really need—Silly goofy intentionally low effort looking designs and comics.

 

[TiltedFN]

Personally, I began browsing the forum a little more comfortably once I realized nothing Luffy says really means much.

Kind of a rude thing to say no?

 

[Fezzih_007]

Kind of a rude thing to say no?

Yes, but is not that bad.

 

[CryoTheMayo]

I wonder—How will Toyotarou approach Dr. Slump? He’s been made the Successor of Dragon Ball, but Penguin Village and all that comes with it exists in the Dragon World, so wouldn’t it mean he’s also, by proxy, the Successor to Dr. Slump? I mention this because, for as much as I trust him to continue Dragon Ball Super, I don’t think he has the capacity for Toriyama’s humor. I also don’t think I’ve ever seen Toyo ever draw anything on the more silly side of Toriyama’s designs, either. The closest was probably the newer art of Beelzebub, and while much closer to Dr. Slump, it’s definitely nowhere close to the real thing. Plus, most of those pieces are high definition/large scale pieces in terms of shading, coloring, etc., compared to what we really need—Silly goofy intentionally low effort looking designs and comics.

I don't think Toyotarou (and probably no one) will ever really touch Dr. Slump material. It might technically exist in the Dragon World but it has no actual reason to ever show up. Plus I don't believe it's anywhere as profitable as Dragon Ball so there is zero monetary incentive for Bandai, Shueisha, etc to push for Slump material. If something like that were to happen it would be a passion project.

 

[RedReaper616]

I don't think Toyotarou (and probably no one) will ever really touch Dr. Slump material. It might technically exist in the Dragon World but it has no actual reason to ever show up. Plus I don't believe it's anywhere as profitable as Dragon Ball so there is zero monetary incentive for Bandai, Shueisha, etc to push for Slump material. If something like that were to happen it would be a passion project.

While Dr. Slump isn’t a worldwide phenomenon to the degree of Dragon Ball, it’s still a massive IP. Especially in Japan. Also, I’d argue Dr. Slump is only lacking worldwide acclaim to the same degree because most of its animated run was never actually given a fair shake in the West.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

While Dr. Slump isn’t a worldwide phenomenon to the degree of Dragon Ball, it’s still a massive IP. Especially in Japan. Also, I’d argue Dr. Slump is only lacking worldwide acclaim to the same degree because most of its animated run was never actually given a fair shake in the West.

A remake of the anime could be released, I never had the opportunity to watch it myself, I only read a few chapters of the manga which was in Portuguese

 

[Ednaxel2]

Remove Self Sustenance Type 1 and replace it with Limited Space Survivability. We switched to this due to the fact that, while it’s undeniable they breathe in space during filler and in some of the currently accepted films, they also adhere to canon during the Namek-Frieza Sagas, where they don’t. So instead of having it SS-T1, we currently only accept them able to survive and fight in space for limited periods of time.

Done

Edit: Also, add radiation empowerment. Toei Saiyans grow in strength and power when experiencing Blutz Waves even outside of the amplifier given by the Oozaru and Golden Oozaru States, so that should be there too.

They still do without the tail? Sorry but could you show the scene/clip proving that?

More quotes

Might take some time but I'll try

 

[CryoTheMayo]

While Dr. Slump isn’t a worldwide phenomenon to the degree of Dragon Ball, it’s still a massive IP. Especially in Japan. Also, I’d argue Dr. Slump is only lacking worldwide acclaim to the same degree because most of its animated run was never actually given a fair shake in the West.

That is true but Japan has been focusing a lot more on international markets recently so I doubt Slump is too appealing right now due to its lack of reputation but I could see them pushing for a remake happening, like Luffy suggested, to try and introduce foreign audiences to it.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

I think, instead of focusing on Dr. Slump for the time being, they should focus on reprinting and digitally re-releasing all of the supplementary material for Dragon Ball they have allowed to fade away into obscurity; y'know, guidebooks, Anime Comics, artbooks, that one quiz book. Maybe even the original transcript for The Legendary Manga.

 

[Huesito88]

That is true but Japan has been focusing a lot more on international markets recently so I doubt Slump is too appealing right now due to its lack of reputation but I could see them pushing for a remake happening, like Luffy suggested, to try and introduce foreign audiences to it.

Imagine the remake is more consistent with the DBZ World's features so we can actually use it =P

 

[Robo432343]

lets go
we are keeping our 2-C ratings

 

[Ednaxel2]

lets go
we are keeping our 2-C ratings

I have to ask, why was it 6 universes before?

 

[Tyranno223]

lets go
we are keeping our 2-C ratings

Neat.

 

[RedReaper616]

I have to ask, why was it 6 universes before?

Because Jiren and Goku scaled above the 3 GoD Clash in the WoV, and 2 GoDs can destroy 2 Macrocosms. Though I always found this scale odd.

 

[Ednaxel2]

Because Jiren and Goku scaled above the 3 GoD Clash in the WoV, and 2 GoDs can destroy 2 Macrocosms. Though I always found this scale odd.

Yeah that's basically using a multiplier in secret

 

[Omegabronic]

lets go
we are keeping our 2-C ratings

"Keeping" is not the right word when it will still be downgraded even then i still have 1 last thread planned.........really didn't expected the size part to take so long with 17 pages

 

[Omegabronic]

Because Jiren and Goku scaled above the 3 GoD Clash in the WoV, and 2 GoDs can destroy 2 Macrocosms. Though I always found this scale odd.

no, with the Heaven calc the KaioshinRealm was thounsands of times bigger than a Universe, as such it was 3 Uni for the macrocosm, that is changed now however

 

[Omegabronic]

It’s not really a downgrade if the rating still stays at 2-C

kind of is, any number of space times downgrade means stomp in the 2-C tier

 

[Huesito88]

kind of is, any number of space times downgrade means stomp in the 2-C tier

Until 4-D stuff all gets revised to be equal in strength to each other in 1000 years

 

[Omegabronic]

Until 4-D stuff all gets revised to be equal in strength to each other in 1000 years

heard only legends of such revision

 

[CelestialVortex01]

What would have happend if the downgrade had passed?

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

What would have happend if the downgrade had passed?

Universe low 2-C, the famous Universal+

 

[Ednaxel2]

What would have happend if the downgrade had passed?

If the afterlife being concretely Low 2-C upgrade passes:

• Characters who can destroy a macrocosm: 2-C (2 universes)
• Characters who can destroy two macrocosms: 2-C (4 universes)
• Shentron restoring 7 macrocosms: 2-C (14 universes)

If it being likely upgrade passes:

• Characters who can destroy a macrocosm: Low 2-C, likely 2-C (2 universes)
• Characters who can destroy two macrocosms: 2-C (2 universes), likely far higher (4 universes)
• Shentron restoring 7 macrocosms: 2-C (7 universes), likely far higher (14 universes)

If it not being Low 2-C passes:

• Characters who can destroy a macrocosm: Low 2-C
• Characters who can destroy two macrocosms: 2-C (2 universes)
• Shentron restoring 7 macrocosms: 2-C (7 universes)

 

[Spinoirr]

Okay but the Super Manga seems to support 2-C better then the anime does right?