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whatPatrick creating a parallel universe
If I could get the East Supreme Kai to 2x Buu Saga Piccolo off of this, that'd be ******* awesome.
Why stop there I'm sure there's tons of these statements!!!!1-C Dragon Ball?!?!?!
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Previously Timeless. Specifically, it was Timeless until the Grand Priest created a Temporal Dimension for the tournament.I forgot,or, rather, I never read the thread addressing the topic,is the Null Realm accepted as timeless?
I've mentioned it before several times in this thread that I hold a significant amount of disdain towards the Dragon Ball Super manga, but I would be lying if I didn't say that there are several instances where Toyotaro really nails the writing down for certain characters and gives them much needed character development.
Ah, that's what we're going with. Can't argue with that excuse, then.Previously Timeless. Specifically, it was Timeless until the Grand Priest created a Temporal Dimension for the tournament.
Something something somehow having time makes you experience time stops when a totally different realm has no time something something (this argument makes absolutely no sense, but apparently I’m just not seeing the logic.)Why can't Other World be timeless again?
Why can't the realm itself be devoid of time and still abide by the whims of the greater, fifth-dimensional hypertimeline, as do the rest of the realms across the Multiverse?
Is really not trought.Toei SSJ3 Goku from the Buu Saga soloing most of DBS would be peak ngl, that Omega thread needs to pass
It would mean Pan solos DBS too.Omega’s thread means GT Goku solos all of DBS in Base. Wild.
As she should.It would mean Pan solos DBS too.
I can only get so excitedOmega’s thread means GT Goku solos all of DBS in Base. Wild.
How do you explain the time passing in the other world when Goku was there?Weird, cuz I heard 時間の概念がない.
Whatever that means.
Right Hit will prepare his social influencing skills on PanIs really not trought.
If It pass, I gonna make a CRT.
It would mean Pan solos DBS too.
Except Hit with preparation.
Right Hit will prepare his social influencing skills on Pan
Yes, like in the Manga only scene where Pan have a crush on hit.Right Hit will prepare his social influencing skills on Pan
The more CBT we endure the more honored we are.
Depending on how that other thread goes, Hit could end up having 5D Time hax combined with his durability negation hax. Hit has 118 sextillion to 9.46 nonillion c speed. So my KING Hit will protect ALL OF SUPER from the terrors of the Grand Tour.Omega’s thread means GT Goku solos all of DBS in Base. Wild.
Speed wise I thought Gt scaled higher?Depending on how that other thread goes, Hit could end up having 5D Time hax combined with his durability negation hax. Hit has 118 sextillion to 9.46 nonillion c speed. So my KING Hit will protect ALL OF SUPER from the terrors of the Grand Tour.
His page doesn't link to a speed blog and only scales his base form above the 4.38 quadrillion times FTL feat from the Otherworld Saga in Z. Comparatively DBS has a complete speed blog making use of accepted form multipliers upscaling from a 118 sextillion times FTL feat in BoG, albeit that would probably get nerfed if the Afterlife size is reduced.Speed wise I thought Gt scaled higher?
Oh right I forgot we managed to upgrade the BOG feat in sizeHis page doesn't link to a speed blog and only scales his base form above the 4.38 quadrillion times FTL feat from the Otherworld Saga in Z. Comparatively DBS has a complete speed blog making use of accepted form multipliers upscaling from a 118 sextillion times FTL feat in BoG, albeit that would probably get nerfed if the Afterlife size is reduced.
So Base BoG Goku is currently sitting around 30 million times faster than Toei Goku after the Cell Saga and GT Goku upscales from that feat. Then SSG is accepted as 160,000x base, Blue should be 1,600,000x base and KKX10 would be 16,000,000x base.
So that equates to what? Hit being over 480 trillion times faster than the feat GT Goku is upscaling from? Unless I've gotten something wrong?
unfortunelly, without the Universal heaven calc......that number will go down significantly regardless of the resultDepending on how that other thread goes, Hit could end up having 5D Time hax combined with his durability negation hax. Hit has 118 sextillion to 9.46 nonillion c speed. So my KING Hit will protect ALL OF SUPER from the terrors of the Grand Tour.
Yeah well taking a glance the Toei section has a Speed blog that puts Kid Buu at 547.5 quintillion which would be less than 1/200th of Base Goku's speed in Super. Base GT Goku upscales from Kid Buu which would put him around 1/200th of Base DBS Goku. So GT SS3 Goku would only be around 2x faster than Base DBS Goku. Ergo Hit is over 8,000,000x faster than GT SS3 Goku in the Baby Saga.Oh right I forgot we managed to upgrade the BOG feat in size
Unfortunately Many Worlds got taken from the cosmology so it's no longer composite. The current thread is about the size of the Afterlife. The current conclusions is that the Toei anime, original manga and DBS Manga could remain 2-C but the DBS Anime has some issues which could downgrade the size of the realm and take 2-C scaling from the anime until the USS.I'm guessing that this talk of GT Goku soloing all of Super in base form is from that thread which will remove the composite cosmology thing that Dragon Ball has on here, right? I haven't been active for a few weeks, mainly due to a severe mental depressed mood I was in, so I'm admittedly out of loop with what's been going on lately.
To be clear, all the original information used for the Low 1-C justifications came exclusively from Toei, or was presented in all mediums including Toei.Unfortunately Many Worlds got taken from the cosmology so it's no longer composite. The current thread is about the size of the Afterlife. The current conclusions is that the Toei anime, original manga and DBS Manga could remain 2-C but the DBS Anime has some issues which could downgrade the size of the realm and take 2-C scaling from the anime until the USS.
I believe the Time Room is still accepted as canon to the cosmology so timelines are still Low 1-C. Even if they get removed we will stay have Low 1-C Heroes at least.
basically yeahI'm guessing that this talk of GT Goku soloing all of Super in base form is from that thread which will remove the composite cosmology thing that Dragon Ball has on here, right? I haven't been active for a few weeks, mainly due to a severe mental depressed mood I was in, so I'm admittedly out of loop with what's been going on lately.
Pretty sure it is dbz mangaTo be clear, all the original information used for the Low 1-C justifications came exclusively from Toei, or was presented in all mediums including Toei.
-Time Room (Toei Anime Exclusive)
-ROSAT statement (All media)
-Bulma statements (DBS Manga Exclusive)
The thread where Low 1-C was accepted only used the first two, while the thread accepting the blog included the last one. In other words, Toei's Low 1-C justifications don't need a re-evaluation since all the original justifications were present in Toei. However, the manga would need a re-evaluation since without the Time Room, the last two justifications may need to be looked at in concert to see if they hold up.
Now's as good as time as any to ask, this might sound like a really dumb question, but is the DBS Anime considered canon to the Manga or Toei?
I believe it is considered a sequel to the manga. It could be worth a shot trying to make it canon to Toei but I don't think it would pass unfortunately.Now's as good as time as any to ask, this might sound like a really dumb question, but is the DBS Anime considered canon to the Manga or Toei?
In theory DBS Anime top tiers could upscale from that same feat starting with Beerus and Champa destroying U6 and U7 but we do lack a timeframe for that destruction statement. If we had a timeframe we could at least somewhat salvage the speed ratings.unfortunelly, without the Universal heaven calc......that number will go down significantly regardless of the result
No, if you check Goku (Toei)‘s page they scale to 10.74 sextillion. It’s only been applied to a couple pages though.His page doesn't link to a speed blog and only scales his base form above the 4.38 quadrillion times FTL feat from the Otherworld Saga in Z. Comparatively DBS has a complete speed blog making use of accepted form multipliers upscaling from a 118 sextillion times FTL feat in BoG, albeit that would probably get nerfed if the Afterlife size is reduced.
So Base BoG Goku is currently sitting around 30 million times faster than Toei Goku after the Cell Saga and GT Goku upscales from that feat. Then SSG is accepted as 160,000x base, Blue should be 1,600,000x base and KKX10 would be 16,000,000x base.
So that equates to what? Hit being over 480 trillion times faster than the feat GT Goku is upscaling from? Unless I've gotten something wrong?
DBS anime top tiers already scale from that via World of Void shenanigans (Jiren shaking the World of Void, which 3 Gods of Destruction going all-out couldn't do when 2 were going to destroy 2 universes)In theory DBS Anime top tiers could upscale from that same feat starting with Beerus and Champa destroying U6 and U7 but we do lack a timeframe for that destruction statement. If we had a timeframe we could at least somewhat salvage the speed ratings.
Honesty I've always thought that scaling was very shakyDBS anime top tiers already scale from that via World of Void shenanigans (Jiren shaking the World of Void, which 3 Gods of Destruction going all-out couldn't do when 2 were going to destroy 2 universes)
Man these Toei pages are a mess right now. Okay in that case GT is probably faster than Super and will be way faster if the Afterlife nerf goes through. I'm still betting on my boy Hit in speed equalised matches.No, if you check Goku (Toei)‘s page they scale to 10.74 sextillion. It’s only been applied to a couple pages though.(The reason why is because I’m lazy)
Yeah but if the Afterlife size is downsized then that feat would also inherently get knocked down wouldn't it? So all of the upscaling would have to be updated to new values which would be significantly lower. I don't believe there is a speed calc using the WoV or Beerus vs Champa right? We just use that for 2-C scaling and all of the speed scaling is via multipliers upscaling from the BoG feat.DBS anime top tiers already scale from that via World of Void shenanigans (Jiren shaking the World of Void, which 3 Gods of Destruction going all-out couldn't do when 2 were going to destroy 2 universes)