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160,000, based on a hypothetical ssj3 Vegito
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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
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I was looking for some DB cuts for one thing.
And man, how come the SSB multiplier was only accepted in 2021? And still with 6 pages?
One simple thing?
That's why I say I'll never make DB crts.
And man, how come the SSB multiplier was only accepted in 2021? And still with 6 pages?
One simple thing?
That's why I say I'll never make DB crts.
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You are, lol
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Totally unrelated question.
Given your seeming experience in JP, relatively speaking, what would be your opinion on this? It's Baby's Quote on the RDB's molecular/atomic destruction to prevent resurrection.
"≪(ベビー)ハハハ…｡
とどめだ｡ 悟空｡お前を分子…
いや 原子の一個一個までばらばらにして
宇宙の ちりに戻してやる｡もう二度と復活できないようにな｡"
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Long ago, the only accepted multiplier was Kaio-Ken. Not even SSJ was accepted as 50x
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i updated my blog with the new multiplier values
DBS Conservative Speed Multipliers Recalc edition
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SSJG = 160.000x via being superior to a Hypotetical SSJ3 Vegetto from BoG
SSJB =8.000.000x via being 50x SSJG
the thread about Fusés maximum < Fusion's Base was also accepted........but for some reason people still didn't applied it even after i updated the blog
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- お前 (omae) = "you", in the sense of looking down upon an inferior, in reference to Goku.
- を (o) indicates the previous noun you is the direct object of the ensuing action.
- 分子…いや (bunshi... iyo) = "molecule... no", indicating Baby is correcting his speech and broadening his expected target.
- 原子の一個一個 (genshi no ikko ikko) = "atoms, one by one" or, simply, "individual atoms"
- まで (made) indicates the extent of the following word.
- ばらばらにして (barabara ni sh!te) = "to scatter" or "to disperse" or "to break apart"
- 宇宙のちり (uchū no chiri) = "dust of the universe"
- に戻してやる (ni modoshite yaru) = "to return to"
In my uneducated opinion, though, I think Baby amplifying up his threat mid-dialogue is proof enough that he wasn't genuinely threatening to perform Matter Manipulation on Goku, he was just making typical Dragon Ball banter. Not that being reduced to space dust would prevent anybody from being resurrected, anyway.
EDIT: Apparently, the word "shit" is banned?
EDIT: Nope, just "*****".
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Interesting. I was mostly curious to see if he was being literal or metaphorical, because I know in JP certain words can be identical “word” wise and yet be different in connotation and change the entire meaning of the conversation.
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So I was doing a draft for a Saiyan physiology.
For the P&A I only threw in the things that were already in the profiles, and others, like Google"Saiyan physiology vsbattle" and finding apparently unfinished blogs by @Nullflowerblush and @Ednaxel2 where I also threw in some things that I found interesting.
The biggest thing was the transformations obviously, also due to the different continuities in notes.
Since I don't follow many DB crts, I answered some questions about some things with users who follow (useful in notes where x thing was accepted)
I just wanted to know what you think of this draft and if I was wrong about anything in the Notes section.
For the P&A I only threw in the things that were already in the profiles, and others, like Google"Saiyan physiology vsbattle" and finding apparently unfinished blogs by @Nullflowerblush and @Ednaxel2 where I also threw in some things that I found interesting.
The biggest thing was the transformations obviously, also due to the different continuities in notes.
Since I don't follow many DB crts, I answered some questions about some things with users who follow (useful in notes where x thing was accepted)
I just wanted to know what you think of this draft and if I was wrong about anything in the Notes section.
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They’re also scaling Xenoverse as canon? (And also ignoring that Buu was amped in that cutscene…)
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Meh, still think they're just trolling at this point. There literally can't be anyone watching Dragon Ball and then later on say "they can't easily destroy planets" tbh.
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Island Level Xeno Goku lol, clearly a troll tbh
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Heh at least they link the cards (looking at this Wiki instead...)Son Goku (Xeno) - The Codex
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Island Level Xeno Goku lol, clearly a troll tbh
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I’ve debated that guy on discord, he’s dead serious.Son Goku (Xeno) - The Codex
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Island Level Xeno Goku lol, clearly a troll tbh
Killerdrone123
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Why did you even debate him in the first place
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Man I hate EZA Int Gotenks
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There were people doing this in DBH, and I was focusing more on Xeno Goku (I was playing DBH WM at the time) but I stopped. I'm no longer interested.
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Yeah just realized, that P/A section is clean af (and also much more lenient than the tiering...)
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Anyone remember this?
Good times, good times
Good times, good times
In the resistance to radiation, remove the blitz wave justification, the wiki decided to remove it due to there not being any tangible comparison to how much it takes to kill someone
Nullflowerblush
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I forget, is "Super Perfect Cell" ever mentioned in any external media?
Nullflowerblush
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When I see "Xeno Goku" and "he's dead serious", I expect to see, like, 18th-dimensional scaling off the backs of vaguely flowery upscaling.
Island level?? Higher with Biting?????
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In Daizenshuu 2 I believe he's referred to as Revived Cell. I think Super Perfect Cell is just useful nickanme assigned by the fans.
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On XenoVerse they also call it just "Cell (Full Power)" fsr.
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as far as i am aware, that form of Cell is either called "Full Power" or "Perfect" with his perfect form being called "Perfect Form"......at least in the games, no idea about guides
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Okay, wait, I found it,
- Heroes uses "超完全体" (Chō Kanzentai), which is "Super Perfection".
- Daizenshuu 5 says "超完全体となって復活した...?!", which is "He was resurrected in a Super Perfect form...?!"
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Ah, nice.
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Super Perfect Cell as a name also appears in games, like RB2. It’s not a “solid” piece of evidence (given games can be wrong, see Raditz’s stated rank in basically any title before the late 2010’s), but it is supplementary.
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That’s right, Null. He has the secrets of true Dragon Ball scaling. Any cosmic feat you see? Outlier. All statements? Lies. Canon? Whatever makes my agenda look better.
All characters are wall level until further notice.
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Isn't it easier to say "hyperbole" than to come up with this huge sentence?
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have you visited comicvine? you'd still find trolls who believe that. Heck there's still those ancient powerscalers from the Triassic Age over on OBD who think buu saga characters aren't planetary
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"—There was another scene I wanted to ask you about. Vegeta creates a small artificial moon during his fight with Goku and he says "But only when [the sunlight] is reflected by the Moon does it contain Green-Spectrum Radiation [Blutz Waves]... When the Moon is full, that radiation exceeds 17 million zeno units."
—These "Blutz Waves" exist in Dragon Ball, but is there anything like them in the real world?
"Terada: This is difficult to interpret... Vegeta says, "moonlight is only sunlight reflected", but when I thought about it again, I think that Blutz Waves are actually the reflected light of sunlight. Since, the reflected light from sunlight are electromagnetic waves, if Blutz Waves are some kind of wave, then they'd be electromagnetic I think... Take a look at this diagram of the different views of the Moon."
"When the Moon is viewed using radio waves, it looks like the one on the upper left, but if you look at the one right next to it it's completely white. That's how the Moon looks when viewed with submillimeter waves. The sun emits various kinds of electromagnetic waves, and when they hit the Moon and are reflected back to us, we can see totally different phenomena just like these images show us."
"Exceeds" is this enough resistance to radiation or
That's because they absorb radiation, not because of exposure to radiation that attacks them. But electromagnetic waves should be dangerous to humans even using those numbers.
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Was there a 5-A downgrade crt from the beginning of the Z or was it just me?
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That was never actually on the table.
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Hey Null, is SSJ Rage a variable of SSJ1 or SSJ2 (like Rose)? Or is it an entirely different transformation?
It's because I was seeing what name it is given in different places and in the media/product outside of anime they call it different ways.
Now he has the Genki Dama sword, I don't remember if it's rage, because it has a blue aura that could perhaps be the Genki Dama. Anyway, I saw a local saying SSJ and SSJ2 to Genki Dama.
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if the waves are just emited by the Full Moon, wouldn't the quantity not be in a dangerous level since normal humans are not affected at all by it and the waves it emits when the full moon happens on Earth?"—There was another scene I wanted to ask you about. Vegeta creates a small artificial moon during his fight with Goku and he says "But only when [the sunlight] is reflected by the Moon does it contain Green-Spectrum Radiation [Blutz Waves]... When the Moon is full, that radiation exceeds 17 million zeno units."
—These "Blutz Waves" exist in Dragon Ball, but is there anything like them in the real world?
"Terada: This is difficult to interpret... Vegeta says, "moonlight is only sunlight reflected", but when I thought about it again, I think that Blutz Waves are actually the reflected light of sunlight. Since, the reflected light from sunlight are electromagnetic waves, if Blutz Waves are some kind of wave, then they'd be electromagnetic I think... Take a look at this diagram of the different views of the Moon."
"When the Moon is viewed using radio waves, it looks like the one on the upper left, but if you look at the one right next to it it's completely white. That's how the Moon looks when viewed with submillimeter waves. The sun emits various kinds of electromagnetic waves, and when they hit the Moon and are reflected back to us, we can see totally different phenomena just like these images show us."
"Exceeds" is this enough resistance to radiation orradiation absorption?
That's because they absorb radiation, not because of exposure to radiation that attacks them. But electromagnetic waves should be dangerous to humans even using those numbers.
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yes, there has enough votes to be applied recently
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The moon emits light from the sun and the sun emits electromagnetic waves [green spectrum] so the color of the moon is like this. They absorb it even during a full moon the figure exceeds 17 million, not because of the radiation exposure, but the waves they absorb, which we should be able to calculate?
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