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Doesn't he have another avatar that sees all his other avatars and the rest as fiction? That one has a roommate iircNah, he doesn't qualifies for the new R>F transcendence
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Doesn't he have another avatar that sees all his other avatars and the rest as fiction? That one has a roommate iircNah, he doesn't qualifies for the new R>F transcendence
if the same guy who made Jiren transcend time is working on Daima we'll get infinite dimensional demon realm trustI hope Daima adds something to the lore and gets rid of the demon realm being as big as a small hideout statement
Yes, but, for the new R>F transcendence, the "fictional" character shouldn't be able to Interact with the "Real" character without external help of that "Real" character (What doesn't happen in Dr. Slump)Doesn't he have another avatar that sees all his other avatars and the rest as fiction? That one has a roommate iirc
In fact he does, those inside the work are just avatars, you can ask @Ss3micahNah, he doesn't qualifies for the new R>F transcendence
I don't know why Jiren doesn't have resistance to general time manipulation considering the time cage.if the same guy who made Jiren transcend time is working on Daima we'll get infinite dimensional demon realm trust
In fact he does, those inside the work are just avatars, you can ask @Ss3micah
Yes, but, for the new R>F transcendence, the "fictional" character shouldn't be able to Interact with the "Real" character without external help of that "Real" character (What doesn't happen in Dr. Slump)
I don't know why Jiren doesn't have resistance to general time manipulation considering the time cage.
and I don't know why he doesn't have infinite speed on this site despite that feat. The prejudice against DB is insane lmao
Being able to resist Time Manipulation doesn't give Infinite Speed
They mostly interact with the lower avatars, I don't think they've actually interacted with that particular oneYes, but, for the new R>F transcendence, the "fictional" character shouldn't be able to Interact with the "Real" character without external help of that "Real" character (What doesn't happen in Dr. Slump)
I imagine, full of people with a lot of hostility when doing any crt, especially opponents.And I don't have the courage to make dragon ball crts.
He should, I mean he resists it straight upI don't know why Jiren doesn't have resistance to general time manipulation considering the time cage.
Well, I'm just releasing ideas for those of you who already have experience in making DB crts.I imagine, full of people with a lot of hostility when doing any crt, especially opponents.
If I tried something like that I would definitely be attacked from all sides, I was thinking about making the hakai just 4DWell, I'm just releasing ideas for those of you who already have experience in making DB crts.
The hakai thing Chrono is doing.
So there's this Jiren thing, and that idea of the 5D hax time for Hit considering that he uses his powers in the Vario world and the place that separates the universes (which could indicate that the time he manipulates is from the hypertimeline)
Despite this last hit, I think it's fragile and I doubt it will pass.
I think Chrono will deal with this in his crt over hakai page when he does. So you don't need to do that now.I was thinking about making the hakai just 4D
I hope so, although I have enough arguments to make hakai 4D, I have all scan.I think Chrono will deal with this in his crt over hakai page when he does. So you don't need to do that now.
You can ask him via DM if he wants to see your reasoning for hakai 4D and if he accepts, send it.I hope so, although I have enough arguments to make hakai 4D, I have all scan.
I will send it to himYou can ask him via DM if he wants to see your reasoning for hakai 4D and if he accepts, send it.
.So like shouldn’t Frieza get a “higher” since he hasn’t use his 100% form?
Arale already interacted with "Real" ToriyamaThey mostly interact with the lower avatars, I don't think they've actually interacted with that particular one
I may be wrong tho
I think so
Doesn´t Hit just creates a pocket dimension where he can control time?So there's this Jiren thing, and that idea of the 5D hax time for Hit considering that he uses his powers in the Vario world and the place that separates the universes (which could indicate that the time he manipulates is from the hypertimeline)
That is not real toriyama if I am not wrongArale already interacted with "Real" Toriyama
I think so
Doesn´t Hit just creates a pocket dimension where he can control time?
well, him resisting Time Stop and Time Slow doesn't mean the he resists time manip in general, example, if someone use time manip to age him, since the aplications he resisted aren't similar to all possible aplications it can have, at least that is the reason i thinkIt wouldn't be immeasurable speed, since his power transcends time and isn't something about speed.
But I don't know why it doesn't have at least a general resistance to time due to resisting the cage + the declaration.
And I don't have the courage to make dragon ball crts.
That´s the real Toriyama:That is not real toriyama if I am not wrong
isn't her enhanced resistance to EE in her second key because she and co resisted "real" Tori trying to erase them? i just checked the profile and that is what it seems like
Dude, just because he resists time slow he should.well, him resisting Time Stop and Time Slow doesn't mean the he resists time manip in general, example, if someone use time manip to age him, since the aplications he resisted aren't similar to all possible aplications it can have, at least that is the reason i think
I mean yeah but when we are saying toriyama we mean toriyama from this world who treats dr slump as fiction iircThat´s the real Toriyama:
Wait, the time stop page no longer exists.Dude, just because he resists time slow he should.
Like, even time stop should just be time manipulation, but it has its own page because it's very popular.
Like, if someone resists time slow, or time acceleration, they already gain resistance to time manipulation, and not resistance to time slow or time acceleration (there isn't even such a page on the wiki).
I didn't even see when that was changed.Wait, the time stop page no longer exists.
Jiren's resistance leads directly to the time manipulation page.
Good, but I think the link should be changed.
i could swear that there was, oh wellDude, just because he resists time slow he should.
Like, even time stop should just be time manipulation, but it has its own page because it's very popular.
Like, if someone resists time slow, or time acceleration, they already gain resistance to time manipulation, and not resistance to time slow or time acceleration (there isn't even such a page on the wiki).
I mean yeah but when we are saying toriyama we mean toriyama from this world who treats dr slump as fiction iirc
Also the main reason why arale was downgraded from 5d since she doesn't scale to him
i could swear that there was, oh well
Wait, the time stop page no longer exists.
Jiren's resistance leads directly to the time manipulation page.
Good, but I think the link should be changed.
I didn't even see when that was changed.
Anyway, I'm glad it happened, dividing time stop and time manipulation into separate pages was stupid.
No I think he is toribot he is avatar of real toriyama also arale has never interacted with anyone in that world if he was the same guy there was no reason to downgrade arale in the first placeAren´t they the same "person", just with different representations? The Toriyama from the video that i sent have a similar function in relation to the creation of Dr. Sump world
Toriyama has many avatars.Aren´t they the same "person", just with different representations? The Toriyama from the video that i sent have a similar function in relation to the creation of Dr. Sump world
Tori-Bot including DBH would be above this anyway since he created some realms that see SDBH as "fiction" and is stated to be the "supreme god" and the reason "all of DBH exists" is the scaling. Whether that would work here or not, who knowsAren´t they the same "person", just with different representations? The Toriyama from the video that i sent have a similar function in relation to the creation of Dr. Sump world
Tori-Bot including DBH would be above this anyway since he created some realms that see SDBH as "fiction" and is stated to be the "supreme god" and the reason "all of DBH exists" is the scaling. Whether that would work here or not, who knows
Dragon Ball Heroes hierarchy redone
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Author characters in general get 1-A now, so long as they qualifyTori-Bot transcending infinite 5D timelines that would make him at least 1-A I'm sure of that