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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

I imagine, full of people with a lot of hostility when doing any crt, especially opponents.
Well, I'm just releasing ideas for those of you who already have experience in making DB crts.

The hakai thing Chrono is doing.

So there's this Jiren thing, and that idea of the 5D hax time for Hit considering that he uses his powers in the Vario world and the place that separates the universes (which could indicate that the time he manipulates is from the hypertimeline)

Despite this last hit, I think it's fragile and I doubt it will pass.
 
Well, I'm just releasing ideas for those of you who already have experience in making DB crts.

The hakai thing Chrono is doing.

So there's this Jiren thing, and that idea of the 5D hax time for Hit considering that he uses his powers in the Vario world and the place that separates the universes (which could indicate that the time he manipulates is from the hypertimeline)

Despite this last hit, I think it's fragile and I doubt it will pass.
If I tried something like that I would definitely be attacked from all sides, I was thinking about making the hakai just 4D
 
They mostly interact with the lower avatars, I don't think they've actually interacted with that particular one

I may be wrong tho
Arale already interacted with "Real" Toriyama

I think so

So there's this Jiren thing, and that idea of the 5D hax time for Hit considering that he uses his powers in the Vario world and the place that separates the universes (which could indicate that the time he manipulates is from the hypertimeline)
Doesn´t Hit just creates a pocket dimension where he can control time?
 
It wouldn't be immeasurable speed, since his power transcends time and isn't something about speed.

But I don't know why it doesn't have at least a general resistance to time due to resisting the cage + the declaration.

And I don't have the courage to make dragon ball crts.
well, him resisting Time Stop and Time Slow doesn't mean the he resists time manip in general, example, if someone use time manip to age him, since the aplications he resisted aren't similar to all possible aplications it can have, at least that is the reason i think
 
That is not real toriyama if I am not wrong
That´s the real Toriyama:
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well, him resisting Time Stop and Time Slow doesn't mean the he resists time manip in general, example, if someone use time manip to age him, since the aplications he resisted aren't similar to all possible aplications it can have, at least that is the reason i think
Dude, just because he resists time slow he should.

Like, even time stop should just be time manipulation, but it has its own page because it's very popular.

Like, if someone resists time slow, or time acceleration, they already gain resistance to time manipulation, and not resistance to time slow or time acceleration (there isn't even such a page on the wiki).
 
Dude, just because he resists time slow he should.

Like, even time stop should just be time manipulation, but it has its own page because it's very popular.

Like, if someone resists time slow, or time acceleration, they already gain resistance to time manipulation, and not resistance to time slow or time acceleration (there isn't even such a page on the wiki).
Wait, the time stop page no longer exists.

Jiren's resistance leads directly to the time manipulation page.

Good, but I think the link should be changed.
 
Wait, the time stop page no longer exists.

Jiren's resistance leads directly to the time manipulation page.

Good, but I think the link should be changed.
I didn't even see when that was changed.

Anyway, I'm glad it happened, dividing time stop and time manipulation into separate pages was stupid.
 
Dude, just because he resists time slow he should.

Like, even time stop should just be time manipulation, but it has its own page because it's very popular.

Like, if someone resists time slow, or time acceleration, they already gain resistance to time manipulation, and not resistance to time slow or time acceleration (there isn't even such a page on the wiki).
i could swear that there was, oh well
 
I mean yeah but when we are saying toriyama we mean toriyama from this world who treats dr slump as fiction iirc



Also the main reason why arale was downgraded from 5d since she doesn't scale to him

Aren´t they the same "person", just with different representations? The Toriyama from the video that i sent have a similar function in relation to the creation of Dr. Sump world
 
Aren´t they the same "person", just with different representations? The Toriyama from the video that i sent have a similar function in relation to the creation of Dr. Sump world
No I think he is toribot he is avatar of real toriyama also arale has never interacted with anyone in that world if he was the same guy there was no reason to downgrade arale in the first place
 
Aren´t they the same "person", just with different representations? The Toriyama from the video that i sent have a similar function in relation to the creation of Dr. Sump world
Tori-Bot including DBH would be above this anyway since he created some realms that see SDBH as "fiction" and is stated to be the "supreme god" and the reason "all of DBH exists" is the scaling. Whether that would work here or not, who knows



(some places not covered/added onto this sites DBH cosmology blog for reference)
 
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Tori-Bot including DBH would be above this anyway since he created some realms that see SDBH as "fiction" and is stated to be the "supreme god" and the reason "all of DBH exists" is the scaling. Whether that would work here or not, who knows




Tori-Bot transcending infinite 5D timelines that would make him at least 1-A I'm sure of that
 
Tori-Bot including DBH would be above this anyway since he created some realms that see SDBH as "fiction" and is stated to be the "supreme god" and the reason "all of DBH exists" is the scaling. Whether that would work here or not, who knows
Ins´t this "realm" just another timeline?
 
Tori-Bot including DBH would be above this anyway since he created some realms that see SDBH as "fiction" and is stated to be the "supreme god" and the reason "all of DBH exists" is the scaling. Whether that would work here or not, who knows



(some places not covered/added onto this sites DBH cosmology blog for reference)

That’s called the Charisma Mission it’s like a higher world of author avatars for characters in the actual Real World in SDBH. (Not Beats World) There’s no point in worrying about them because there isn’t enough scans, and really no context to most things. If we were to make one it would literally be ki manipulation, transformation, plot manipulation, and no other hax. It’d be the most dead page on the wiki lol. It’s not even worth worrying about them tbh or doing anything with them.
 
That’s called the Charisma Mission it’s like a higher world of author avatars for characters in the actual Real World in SDBH. (Not Beats World) There’s no point in worrying about them because there isn’t enough scans, and really no context to most things. If we were to make one it would literally be ki manipulation, transformation, plot manipulation, and no other hax. It’d be the most dead page on the wiki lol. It’s not even worth worrying about them tbh or doing anything with them.
I'm replying to a conversation talking about Tori-Bot and where he would scale so realms like this would be important for a general scale since he scales above these realms, I'm not talking about the individual Charismas themselves or any of that
 
I'm replying to a conversation talking about Tori-Bot and where he would scale so realms like this would be important for a general scale since he scales above these realms, I'm not talking about the individual Charismas themselves or any of that
I see. I still don’t know if there’s enough stuff for Game Toriyama to differentiate from Canon Toriyama, but I see the vision.
I thought Tori-Bot and Toriyama scale to it?
Toriyama, yes. He meant like relevant SDBH characters, for example CC Goku, Xeno Goku, etc. None of them scale to the Charismas or beyond.
 
What do y'all think of the idea that post-ToP Base Goku > Early ToP SSB Goku?

Early ToP SSB Goku is portrayed to be relative to Android 17. Android 17 has infinite stamina and therefore his power remains the same throughout the tournament. Tired out drained Base Goku and Base Frieza at the end of the tournament are portrayed as relative to that Android 17.
Plot convenience, Freeza is not noted to get any stronger and 17 having unlimited stamina doesn’t really mean he isnt going to have a worse performance due to him sustaining injury aka blowing himself up so that’s not the avenue I’d use for scaling Goku.

Afaik

End of black arc SSB = early ToP SSG based on his comparative performance during his tag team with hit vs Dyspo.

UI1 > SSB Vegito -> Base Vegito -> Early ToP SSG = Black arc SSB Goku ( based on Gogetas base surpassing 2 SSB vs Broly )

Post UI2 SSB > UI1 > SSB Vegito > Base Vegito > Early ToP SSG

Now assume Goku stops using SSB and he’d be superior to base Vegito who may or may not surpass his Early ToP SSB.

Obviously this scaling is screwed the instant you try to slip in more power ups between the time he fused into Vegito and the start of the ToP besides his showings against Dyspo as a SSG.
 
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