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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

It would more than like be immeasurable since macrocosms now are themselves mini timelines having there own time dimension
Speed in Dragon Ball being infinite/immeasurable is possibly the most inconsistent thing in the verse (after the power levels deciding when to be linear and when not to be) so we've just agreed to not touch it.
 
Speed in Dragon Ball being infinite/immeasurable is possibly the most inconsistent thing in the verse (after the power levels deciding when to be linear and when not to be) so we've just agreed to not touch it.
no I was more saying how if anyone flew from one macrocosm to another in db via speed it would be immeasurable not that I was implying they have immeasurable speed also can I know what inconsistency there are aside from t.o.p that could also be explained
 
About the angels having infinite and immeasurable speed seems quite interesting, but anyway it would be scaled for dimensional travel

But have you ever wondered about the Gods of Destruction, when they fight they destroy 6 Universal-sized space-times with their energies? You could achieve absurd speed through that (⁠ ⁠╹⁠▽⁠╹⁠ ⁠)
 
Angels should have immeasurable speeds anyhow, they just normal fly through 4-D, 5-D and 6-D axis of time unless shown otherwise because they sure as heck don’t use portals.
 
Angels should have immeasurable speeds anyhow, they just normal fly through 4-D, 5-D and 6-D axis of time unless shown otherwise because they sure as heck don’t use portals.
Doesn’t it take Whis 30 minutes at top speed to travel between Beerus’s planet and Earth? I could be misremembering though
 
Angels should have immeasurable speeds anyhow, they just normal fly through 4-D, 5-D and 6-D axis of time unless shown otherwise because they sure as heck don’t use portals.
Flying between space times is just dimensional travel, it isn't speed under the current standards
 
Nah I think you're right, I pretty clearly remember Whis and Beerus having a whole ass conversation and packing lunch for the warp trip.
To be fair it would be contradicted latee since we can clearly see here



Time stamp 1:40

Whis arrives to earth like 4 to 5 seconds though he does say he never flew this fast before
 
To be fair it would be contradicted latee since we can clearly see here



Time stamp 1:40

Whis arrives to earth like 4 to 5 seconds though he does say he never flew this fast before

I'm just saying that the scene did happen where they took 30 minutes to travel from Beerus' planet, but not that the verse speed should be capped there. Whis seemed pretty casual travelling that fast anyways. Plus the universe should be infinite
 
There are characters who are recorded on TV cameras
I enjoyed that
I just vaguely recall such a statement, it may not have been about Whis. It would have been early Super.
Going from one dimension to another seems quite interesting
I'm just saying that the scene did happen where they took 30 minutes to travel from Beerus' planet, but not that the verse speed should be capped there. Whis seemed pretty casual travelling that fast anyways. Plus the universe should be infinite
We have to come back with an infinite Universe
 
Have we got all the raws and citations for the infinite universe, could someone link them to me if possible?

Here are all mention
 

Here are all mention
Thanks!
 
Koyama wouldn't be a relevant source, really.

Also, those would be dimensional travel feats, not a real speed feat. Even characters who dimensional travel on 'raw speed' STILL do not get anything but "Can travel Dimensionally on speed."

We also know that Whis' travel is specifically spatio-temporal warping, as he can travel to realms that require that.
 
Koyama wouldn't be a relevant source, really.

Also, those would be dimensional travel feats, not a real speed feat. Even characters who dimensional travel on 'raw speed' STILL do not get anything but "Can travel Dimensionally on speed."

We also know that Whis' travel is specifically spatio-temporal warping, as he can travel to realms that require that.
Koyama is one of the creators of Dragon Ball Z, his influence on Dragon Ball toei is quite relevant, he is just stating what the material original suggests nothing more and he is not contracting against work, his evidence about the infinite Universe serves to complement something that already exists within the work
 
Koyama shoudlnt be used for DBS (you cant win this fight) but its a cool thing if you want to make your point stronger

But ya, Koyamas insider knowledge when it comes to Toriyama/Toei >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> random weebo
 
Speed in Dragon Ball being infinite/immeasurable is possibly the most inconsistent thing in the verse (after the power levels deciding when to be linear and when not to be) so we've just agreed to not touch it.
I agree it's inconsistent, but wouldn't it be something like sonic's superforms? That they have a time limit but still have immeasurable speed?
 
I agree it's inconsistent, but wouldn't it be something like sonic's superforms? That they have a time limit but still have immeasurable speed?
They don't have a time limit, they just need rings in canon to sustain their power. Plus, the Super forms always last as long as they need to from a narrative perspective afaik
 
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