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Depends on how they flew there and the distance between different universes
In the case of DBS, we need to have a distance before you talk about how fast they flew
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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
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In the case of DBS, we need to have a distance before you talk about how fast they flew
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It would more than like be immeasurable since macrocosms now are themselves mini timelines having there own time dimension
DivineAura44
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Speed in Dragon Ball being infinite/immeasurable is possibly the most inconsistent thing in the verse (after the power levels deciding when to be linear and when not to be) so we've just agreed to not touch it.
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no I was more saying how if anyone flew from one macrocosm to another in db via speed it would be immeasurable not that I was implying they have immeasurable speed also can I know what inconsistency there are aside from t.o.p that could also be explained
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Oh, mb.
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People's biggest fear is seeing Dragon Ball reach a level beyond normal, lol
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About the angels having infinite and immeasurable speed seems quite interesting, but anyway it would be scaled for dimensional travel
But have you ever wondered about the Gods of Destruction, when they fight they destroy 6 Universal-sized space-times with their energies? You could achieve absurd speed through that ( ╹▽╹ )
But have you ever wondered about the Gods of Destruction, when they fight they destroy 6 Universal-sized space-times with their energies? You could achieve absurd speed through that ( ╹▽╹ )
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Didn't mention a portal. Unless it's stated to be through sheer speed, there isn't a debate to be had.
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Angels should have immeasurable speeds anyhow, they just normal fly through 4-D, 5-D and 6-D axis of time unless shown otherwise because they sure as heck don’t use portals.
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Doesn’t it take Whis 30 minutes at top speed to travel between Beerus’s planet and Earth? I could be misremembering though
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There are characters who take 12 hours to get to a house ( ╹▽╹ )
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Flying between space times is just dimensional travel, it isn't speed under the current standards
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There are characters who are recorded on TV cameras
Killerdrone123
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In arale episode he literally flew from beerus planet to earth in seconds
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DivineAura44
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Is that Whis himself flying? I thought it was a different method of travel.
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I just vaguely recall such a statement, it may not have been about Whis. It would have been early Super.
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Nah I think you're right, I pretty clearly remember Whis and Beerus having a whole ass conversation and packing lunch for the warp trip.
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I think it was for going in the different universe
Killerdrone123
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To be fair it would be contradicted latee since we can clearly see here
Time stamp 1:40
Whis arrives to earth like 4 to 5 seconds though he does say he never flew this fast before
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I'm just saying that the scene did happen where they took 30 minutes to travel from Beerus' planet, but not that the verse speed should be capped there. Whis seemed pretty casual travelling that fast anyways.
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I enjoyed that
Going from one dimension to another seems quite interesting
We have to come back with an infinite Universe
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Have we got all the raws and citations for the infinite universe, could someone link them to me if possible?
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Dragon Ball: Infinite Universe
Continue from here. Primary Source Scan Super Anime - Episode 29: https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Combat_Matches_Are_a_Go!_The_Captain_Is_Someone_Stronger_Than_Goku There are places beyond the edge of the Observable Universe that we see in Super since it's littered with stars and light. See...
Here are all mention
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Thanks!Dragon Ball: Infinite Universe
Continue from here. Primary Source Scan Super Anime - Episode 29: https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Combat_Matches_Are_a_Go!_The_Captain_Is_Someone_Stronger_Than_Goku There are places beyond the edge of the Observable Universe that we see in Super since it's littered with stars and light. See...vsbattles.com
Here are all mention
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There is also mention of the site talking about Infinite Universes too
[How Do Time Machines Work? Asking an Expert about Time Travel in Dragon Ball] | DRAGON BALL OFFICIAL SITE
Around the beginning of Dragon Ball's Cell arc, a mysterious young man appears b
And more mention about infinity
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You're welcome
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Koyama wouldn't be a relevant source, really.
Also, those would be dimensional travel feats, not a real speed feat. Even characters who dimensional travel on 'raw speed' STILL do not get anything but "Can travel Dimensionally on speed."
We also know that Whis' travel is specifically spatio-temporal warping, as he can travel to realms that require that.
Also, those would be dimensional travel feats, not a real speed feat. Even characters who dimensional travel on 'raw speed' STILL do not get anything but "Can travel Dimensionally on speed."
We also know that Whis' travel is specifically spatio-temporal warping, as he can travel to realms that require that.
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Koyama is one of the creators of Dragon Ball Z, his influence on Dragon Ball toei is quite relevant, he is just stating what the material original suggests nothing more and he is not contracting against work, his evidence about the infinite Universe serves to complement something that already exists within the work
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Exactly
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I agree it's inconsistent, but wouldn't it be something like sonic's superforms? That they have a time limit but still have immeasurable speed?
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People forget he's still the screenwriter for Dragon Ball Z
A screenwriter's opinion about his own work > a random person's opinion
A screenwriter's opinion about his own work > a random person's opinion
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Koyama's statements are "interesting" to say the least.
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Time limit?
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About things related to Toei that are already in the work, yes, but that there is no information in the work, we shouldn't take it seriously.
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Sonic's Super Form has no time limit
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They don't have a time limit, they just need rings in canon to sustain their power. Plus, the Super forms always last as long as they need to from a narrative perspective afaik
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nah, rings are not what powers it either
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Oh really? That's kind of dumb because there's no stakes against the final boss if they can't damage Sonic lol. But anyways back to discussing Db
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