Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

[Cass5373]

Conceptual manipulation wouldn't be a bad idea

If you are going to make it, cook it properly this time, please.

 

[VinnyXD]

And telekinesis, Goku's Ki barrier, his superior attack range, Greater Analytical Prediction (Can predict opponents based on movement, sense malicious intent, and feel small current of air. During his fight against Hit, he managed to predict his movements after he skipped time by 0.1 seconds, allowing Goku to counter Hit's Time-Skip ability), the very highest level of instinctive reaction that Goku manages, BFR, His resistance to information analysis and something else that I'm forgetting. I think that just being able to catch Luffy with his telekinesis would decide the battle.

Definitely debatable but I'm pretty sure Goku also has the best Power Mimcy and Analytical Prediction (I think people underestimate he's in general)out of everyone here.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Oolong asked Shenlong if he could ask that he defeat the Saiyans and he said that he couldn't because making that wish exceeded the power of his creator.

This would provide resistance to reality manipulation as well.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

If you are going to make it, cook it properly this time, please.

I don't understand anything conceptually, but I'll leave it to the people who do.

@Vietthai96 Conceptual Ki until the end of February 2024, okay?

 

[Cass5373]

I don't understand anything conceptually, but I'll leave it to the people who do.

@Vietthai96 Conceptual Ki until the end of February 2024, okay?

I don't think @Vietthai96 is going to agree with conceptual manipulation

 

[Kachon123]

?

このわしにも今回だけは未来がよめぬ･･･
For once I, too, can't predict the outcome...

Contextualized it seems more that Baba can not tell what the fate of the Earth, because that's how decisive the battle is, rather than them outright resisting her precognition.

 

[Kachon123]

This isn't explaining how it works. What you showed is just how Goku uses it.

 

[Cass5373]

This would provide resistance to reality manipulation as well.

I think that should be the case.

 

[SlendVeny]

This would provide resistance to reality manipulation as well.

When is Shenron shown to warp reality to kill people?

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

When is Shenron shown to warp reality to kill people?

That's one of the powers of Dragon Ball dragons, didn't you know? They do this through manipulation of reality

 

[VinnyXD]

Contextualized it seems more that Baba can not tell what the fate of the Earth, because that's how decisive the battle is, rather than them outright resisting her precognition.

Oh yeah outcome changes it

 

[Cass5373]

Contextualized it seems more that Baba can not tell what the fate of the Earth, because that's how decisive the battle is, rather than them outright resisting her precognition.

Uranai baba is described as a fortune teller who can guess everything one wants to know, she knew that Goku was going to go look for her and she went ahead to bring Son Gohan from paradise, she knew that Goku was going to save the world against Piccolo daimaku, etc. . Precognition is, simply put, the ability to see the future. Characters with this ability can, through varying means, accurately predict future events. Said means fall under two main categories; Divination, in which a user acquires impossible knowledge of upcoming events by looking into the future itself, and Analytical Prediction, in which a user predicts the actions of others, as well as their consequences, through analysis of the factors involved. While the means are different, both forms of the power are fundamentally similar, with noticeable overlap. On top of this, the specifics and power of Precognition differ greatly from character to character.

 

[Kachon123]

Why did you copy paste the Precog page

 

[Cass5373]

Why did you copy paste the Precog page

Because I don't know how to link links to my comments

 

[Fezzih_007]

This isn't explaining how it works. What you showed is just how Goku uses it.

I trought you would understand just for seeing.

Well, he uses his God Ki to prevent people from moving, by channeling them on the opponent.

 

[Kachon123]

Well, he uses his God Ki to prevent people from moving, by channeling them on the opponent.

If they have equal stats that means they LS would also be equal, no? If so, then this wouldn't work on Luffy.

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

If they have equal stats that means they LS would also be equal, no? If so, then this wouldn't work on Luffy.

Basically that. Except if it's decided it works on people with similar stats. I will leave it up to you friends though. Noah bags both anyway.

 

[Fezzih_007]

If they have equal stats that means they LS would also be equal, no? If so, then this wouldn't work on Luffy.

But is not based on LS trought.

 

[SlendVeny]

That's one of the powers of Dragon Ball dragons, didn't you know? They do this through manipulation of reality

But wouldn't this just be a weakness for Shenron?

 

[Fezzih_007]

But wouldn't this just be a weakness for Shenron?

Yes.

 

[Kachon123]

But is not based on LS trought.

You literally said above that Goku uses his God Ki to put it on the opponent, and that's what stops them from moving. That is textbook LS.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

But wouldn't this just be a weakness for Shenron?

I think so

 

[Fezzih_007]

You said above that Goku uses his God Ki to put it on the opponent, and that's what stops them from moving. That is textbook LS.

Not really, he uses God Ki on your body to prevent you for moving by Paralysis them, is not holding them physically like TK.

 

[Kachon123]

Not really, he uses God Ki on your body to prevent you for moving by Paralysis them, is not holding them physically like TK.

This isn't explaining anything man. If it's not LS, then what does placing God Ki on the opponent actually do?

 

[Cass5373]

I still don't understand why Luffy can resist God bind paralysis (which is not a neurotoxin) and telekinesis when the stats are equal...

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

 

[Kachon123]

I still don't understand why Luffy could resist God bind's paralysis

Nobody has explained how it works yet.

and telekinesis when the stats are even

If stats are even then telekinesis wouldn't work due to their LS being equal.

 

[Quantu]

Someone make a Goku vs Luffy skill thread so you goobers can argue there istead

 

[Cass5373]

Nobody has explained how it works yet.

If stats are even then telekinesis wouldn't work due to their LS being equal.

Apparently he covers his opponent with Ki, which prevents him from moving because after all, it has not been described as a neurotoxin either.

There is resistance to telekinesis and I don't think Luffy has proven to have it.
https://vsbattles.com/threads/resis...pulation-and-ls-and-stuff.132702/post-4552256

 

[Fezzih_007]

This isn't explaining anything man. If it's not LS, then what does placing God Ki on the opponent actually do?

They paralyzes them, what you not understanding? He use his God Ki to stop people from moving, but is not holding with LS.

Is like, limited disabling.

 

[Kachon123]

There is resistance to telekinesis and I don't think Luffy has proven to have it.

He resists telekinesis with Haki via the Fuwa Fuwa no Mi.

 

[VinnyXD]

If they have equal stats that means they LS would also be equal, no? If so, then this wouldn't work on Luffy.

Ehhhhhh depends

I gotta watch the fight again but some characters can paralysis character above them ex Frieza and Toppo.

 

[Kachon123]

They paralyzes them, what you not understanding? He use his God Ki to stop people from moving, but is not holding with LS.

If it's just stopping his body from moving then Luffy would resist that like I said originally with haki due to Magellan's paralysis.

 

[Fezzih_007]

If it's just stopping his body from moving then Luffy would resist that like I said originally with haki due to Magellan's paralysis.

And like i said, is different type of Paralysis.

 

[Cass5373]

Does it not resist telekinesis because it is inherently thanks to the "immunity" of haki to the abilities of the akuma no mi? And the paralysis you describe is due to neurotoxins.

 

[Kachon123]

Does it not resist telekinesis because it is inherently thanks to the "immunity" of haki to the abilities of the akuma no mi? And the paralysis you describe is due to neurotoxins.

Yes and it's an ability of the devil fruit.

 

[Cass5373]

Yes and it's an ability of the devil fruit.

So I don't see how it would apply to Ki, which is more "similar" to haki.

 

[Kachon123]

So I don't see how it would apply to Ki, which is more "similar" to haki.

You're misunderstanding. Haki resist abilities, which Devil Fruits just happen to have.

 

[Fezzih_007]

So I don't see how it would apply to Ki, which is more "similar" to haki.

If we use the Vs wiki rules, we gonna verse equalized them.

 

[Cass5373]

You're misunderstanding. Haki resist abilities, which Devil Fruits just happen to have.

And isn't it because they are inherently resistant to Devil Fruit abilities?