Serlock_Holmes
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Because they have the same stats, but Ki is a very finite source that is going down with each ki barrier hit, while Luffy can hit way more. Telekinesis would be equalled to stats and thus would do jack shit.
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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
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Serlock_Holmes
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How would he even finish the fight? Yeah Goku can harden his aura, but Luffy can also amp his moves and return his ki beams back. Could Goku attack Moro during Tk?
Killerdrone123
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Ki barriers can even block attacks that are coming from a stronger opponent
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i mean......Haki is basically that as well
Serlock_Holmes
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Usually they are used against weaker ones. Only one I can remember that used them against stronger is 17 due to his inf. Ki. Also Ui has a time limit after which Goku is done.
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In terms of evasion, defense, attack, range, I see Goku more prepared than Luffy, although he has good abilities such as resistance to forceful attacks, precognition, immortality and regeneration. I think that in terms of endurance, Luffy would have a better chance of fighting for longer at his maximum power.
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But in Goku's case he would have multiple ways of automatic defenses and increasing his defense without resorting to stat boosters.
Fezzih_007
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Why he can hit way more? Like, If they have equalized stats, even hit way more should't né able to break Ki barriers, since It can survive attacks for stronger foes than them.
Why? Telekenisis Works on comparable foes.
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Base Goku stopping Post Wish Gas attacks with his ki barriers.
Killerdrone123
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Goku was in base and gas couldn't break his ki barriers
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Pretty sure Haki has that as well
Fezzih_007
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Actually, we should stop talking, and do a match instead on Fun and Games.
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Honestly I only saw Stats boosters in the haki section, like armor haki or reactive power
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moro couldn't do anything against goku's telekinesis, could goku force choke luffy like zamasu and gas could?
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I will defend him when he has a chance of victory and not now, it is Goku who is fighting at his maximum potential who was able to predict the time stopping movements before even if Hit hits him
What's the point of predicting the future if you're defeated in all of them?
His prediction of the future is limited, although he can be hit by characters higher than his level, Kaido is a beautiful example, where Luffy was hit several times in a row and his ability was not of great help
Just because a guy has the ability to see the future doesn't mean he can win against another character.
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Energy Manipulation, Minor Forcefield Creation and Statistics Amplification (Users of Busoshoku Haki are capable of manipulating their energy into a spiritual invisible armor which covers characters' bodies[1])
Forcefield Creation (Capable of creating actual forcefields that block attacks[46])
Enhanced Elasticity and Damage Reduction (He can morph his body to fit the shapes of people's physical attacks, effectively reducing damage, even if the attack is coated in Busōshoku Haki)
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Kaido also has Kenbunshoku Haki
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Luffy can dodge.
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But he hasn't shown himself to be able to see the future, bro.
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He should be able to do it but he never has.
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Take Luffy with superior instinct
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Mmm...in his profile he has advanced Kenbunshoku Haki and I think that with that level he already had precognition.
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Goku with God can burn atmosphere...
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Nah Kaido can also see the future, he used it against Luffy.
SO TRUE
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It's not all Haki that awakens something like this, there are only two characters that so far in the work have shown precognition
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Show?
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You are OP's fan, I go by the profiles so if that's the case then I agree with you.
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Oh unless I haven't seen this part of Kaido with any precognition, In the anime, haki is capable of releasing several things, but some did not show other abilities
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Shanks also has future sight. So there's actually 4 people confirmed that can see the future, not 2.
But this is off topic, this is the DB Discussion Thread, not One Piece.
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My mistake, I don't remember anything like that in the anime, but that's okay.
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In reality it was an "implicit" statement as it was not possible what was going to happen on that occasion...
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I don't remember that part
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Ki crush is funny.
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Chapter 211 of the manga
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Well it said she didn’t know what the future held, but I guess you could interpret it to the future of the event of the saiyans?
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It reminded me of Bleach, good times.
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