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Sonic Vs. Goku used to be one of the big powerscaling debates back in the day. Nowadays Sonic in general has really lost popularity in these communities and when people do talk about him it's just Archie Sonic like 90% of the time.
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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
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That and a good old round of moon pissing.
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Guys, i heard the caretakers in GT had some insane eldritch reality warping feats. Where do they scale?
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The DB fan wiki article sums it up pretty well.
Caretakers (Sugoroku Space)
The caretakers of Sugoroku Space are a group of incredibly powerful beings who control the games that go on in Sugoroku Space. After Goku revealed that Sugoro had been cheating in the Sugoroko Space games, the caretakers turned the environment red and dark and after discussing amongst each...
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Sadly they never did enough to warrant any kind of attention or relevancy and never will, but they were pretty ridiculously strong considering that GT Goku was essentially a transcendentally inferior being to them.
SirAlex09
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Yes. I was debating with Noodles. He said Naruto can predict and react to Goku's IT just like he did with Obito's Kamui/ Kaguya's portals.Wait you saw that discourse on twitter? lmfaoo yeah it was definitely something, I made so many people mad
Bro actually compared this to this. and this
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fr lmao, I.T is much faster and far more versatile than teleportation in naruto by far, goku easily catches naruto off guardYes. I was debating with Noodles. He said Naruto can predict and react to Goku's IT just like he did with Obito's Kamui/ Kaguya's portals.
Bro actually compared this to this. and this
Killerdrone123
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Okay naruto is not below one piece but it is true that ichigo solos
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not sure where this goes so i am just gonna put this here
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If it's peak Naruto with Truth Seeking Orbs and a veritable mountain of abilities not to mention an army of a thousand clones, I don't think he's going out first ngl. Even anime Goku might struggle but if it's manga Goku he def low-mid diffs them. I think Ichigo is going out first and then Luffy.
Killerdrone123
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How does ichigo is going out first I think luffy is the one going out first
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Ichigo never showed a particularly high amount of skill as far as I recall, and his unique abilities/hax are kind of lacking unless you go "
xd reiautsu crush!!" which Ichigo never used as far as I remember.Ichigo legit a type of character that isn't a swordsman but just a sword user, like Trunks. They aren't really that skilled with using swords, they just use them anyways.
Correct me if I'm wrong but Ichigo just doesn't have much specific powers going for him here. Most of his "special abilities/techniques" are just energy blasts lol.
Killerdrone123
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Iirc ichigo has ee which luffy has no resistance for
Fezzih_007
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Actually, i better make a CRT.
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Why does it scale to Goku toei instead of Goku Z manga?
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Your speed is outdated too
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I was also going to ask the same thing, since he's from a manga, so the most logical thing is for him to scale with the manga, right?
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Ichigo:
-Enhances attacks, similar to ki
-Cannot be seen normally
-Grows in power during fights
-Can basically fly
-Senses spirits
-Can travel dimensions
-Directly hits souls
-Can damage or paralyze with aura alone
-Can negate things weaker than him
-Can only be damaged by things that hit souls
And those are just the things he gets from being a regular soul.
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Luffy is complicated because his rubber body makes any physical strike at him basically useless
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goku incomplete hakai gg
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well i guess, but then again what if the one used is not the manga Goku?
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-It is in the same stats and the growth of its power would not be used in that case.
-I think the only one who would have difficulty feeling Ichigo would be Luffy because I think Goku and Naruto have more developed sense in that aspect.
-It is with equal stats.
-I think all four of them can fly.
-The only one who cannot travel between dimensions is Luffy.
-Striking souls directly is a good plus point for Ichigo.
-I think Ichigo's damage and paralysis with the aura is only against weaker beings and in this case they would all have the same power.
-What I had said in the previous points.
-Again I think that the only one who has nothing to do against that is Luffy.
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ki crush gg
Serlock_Holmes
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If they have same dura he can't Ki Crush.
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And what does the ki crush do?
Killerdrone123
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You can only ki crush opponents who are weaker than you
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Would they need to flare their ki to crush them?
Serlock_Holmes
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Especially crushing a rubber man.
Killerdrone123
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We don't know the exact difference but what we know is that opponent needs to be significantly weaker
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significantly?
Killerdrone123
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Like cell and mr satan level of difference or jiren and krillin level
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Goku can use slashing attacks like kienzan to do some damage to Luffy
Killerdrone123
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Bro I swear to god you are a total goku fan like common you are not even going to defend the guy who is your pfp and username and your favorite mc
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