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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
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Hasty12345
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See, I saw it and I’m most interested in the fact the Superhero novel establishes that, APPARENTLY, Cell Max’s energy blast was a pseudo Black Hole that absorbs energy and improves itself.
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They will. Infinite Frontier Superman IS Composite Superman. Every story is canon short Elseworlds. This is reiterated not once, not twice, but three times.Goku... his ass ain't winning. Luckily DB won't use as composited a Superman.
Though I will be keeping my eye out. Infinite Multi AP and Immeasurable Speed minimum for Goku and I will accept whatever happens.
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They really should just do Goku (super) vs Goku (GT)
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Let a man cope in peace
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That is a bad idea ngl
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GVS 3 (Goku VS Superman 3) is basically Pre and Post-crisis Superman VS DBH Goku
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Wait so this version of superman is literally every single DC comic published story of superman meshed into one?
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Pretty much yeah
Fezzih_007
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Nah, is very cool.
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Not enough to a 20 minutes+ episode with months of research
Hasty12345
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Goku is f**ked no matter how you slice it
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Nah, he can win...... I thinkGoku is f**ked no matter how you slice it
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Place zero faith in their predictions. modern G1 is usually wrong in my experience and they also claimed Megatron would beat Freeza in their episode. Not saying I think Goku will win, just that G1 isn't typically accurate for the result. I wouldn't be surprised if they tie.
No, not exactly. They aren't using any Elseworlds story. It's like Pre-Crisis, Post-Crisis, Post-Flashpoint, Rebirth together as a 'canon composite'.
Comparatively they're using DBS Anime Goku because SDBH states the DBS Anime takes place in Heroes and that CC Goku is DBS Anime Goku. So in their head that composites Toei, DBS Anime and Heroes. I think they're factoring the DBS Manga in as well.
Pre-Crisis > Post-Crisis > Post-Flashpoint > Rebirth
Toei > DBS Anime > DBS Manga(?) > Heroes
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They used Composite Megatron in their analysis as far as i know, so their claim wasn´t necessary wrong
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Plus, and let's be for real here.
A Death Battle version of Super Goku vs GT Goku likely wouldn't compare to Hyourinjutsu's version, simply given that DB has to keep things short while animators like Hyou can make it as long as he wants
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Superman will use his Super-Ventriloquism to make Goku think he’s gone mad and he’d incap by putting Goku in Arkham.
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Also, I wonder if Arale could mess with the Story of Superman. I know that it wasn’t able to be messed with by Retconn Corp, but I’m not sure how powerful they are relative to the DC Cosmology, and Mandrakk was able to mess with the SoS, (and after it won it was gonna die if CAS didn’t disband) so it’s very clearly not invincible. If just has suitably high resistance to plot manip. Though, given comics, I’d guess that more often than not it’d be beyond her.
Edit: Also, I was surprised that no one was considering the potential for Goku to stat steal from Clark, (not power absorption, but literally stealing stats because JRPG) and essentially leeching Superman’s physicality for himself to pull a Wally.
Edit: Also, I was surprised that no one was considering the potential for Goku to stat steal from Clark, (not power absorption, but literally stealing stats because JRPG) and essentially leeching Superman’s physicality for himself to pull a Wally.
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Perhaps? I can't say objectively, the primary argument seems to be Alternity should win. But this is in regards to the Death Battle episode. Their predictions are inaccurate for the show's conclusions.
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If you go by the high ends of the cosmology, the Retcon Corp are Outerversal and beyond the whole of DC Comics yet Superman was able to reverse having the story of his character rewritten by them.
Though even by our site's standards, Mandrakk is 6-D while Arale is 5-D and the former couldn't significantly affect Superman's story so I'd say it's beyond her abilities
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What specific version of sdbh are they even using? So many hax of goku left out man.
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They gave him everything but the Universe Tree, basically.
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They fear the aura
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hes missing so many hax man, this is sick work
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Lol afraid there boy couldn't withstand the haxs ut has to give btw can superman survive dimensional domain
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When they started pulling out “omniversal” feats for superman, it was over for Goku 
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Lol, with standards such as thatWhen they started pulling out “omniversal” feats for superman, it was over for Goku
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As a person who doesn’t not know what dbh has been cooking, I also agree that they should give goku a tree.
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Excellence616
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Is Ultra Instinct an AP amp or just speed or neither?
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Both
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If you mean the transformation, both
If you mean the technique alone, speed
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It boosts your entire stats not just AP or Speed
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Like every Saiyan transformation, it boosts physical stats generally. Strength, speed, durability, and senses. It just also has the addition of instinctive reactions.
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Man this death battle is gonna be such a mess man. That blog that was posted of some guy theorizing who would win left out to many wincons and hax resistances for goku its insane, bro was such a blatant superman fan and took all dimensional tiering for supes seriously and just said all of goku's were hyperbole. Absolutely insane, glad that guy wasn't the one researching the goku vs supes fight. We'll see how this goes.
Hasty12345
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For real, he had Superman at that OMNIVERSAL. You just know when comic fans bring out that word they won’t listen to anyone else
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I mean, Superman's gonna win, you know that right?
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