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Why you all are assuming that hiz time stop and time skip are the same technique?
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Because one, Whis says that it’s the same ability as his own, so at worst it’s a different application of the same root technique, (all still reliant on the same Time he uses) and second, because when Hit uses what is clearly Time Stop—To barrage Goku’s body with blows—He says he accomplished this by IMPROVING his TIME SKIP. We also see that things like allowing others to move in time and the Times of Time, different things entirely, are still routed within Time Skip. He allows others to move in TS, and concentrates his stored TS time on Jiren.Why you all are assuming that hiz time stop and time skip are the same technique?
I didn't, I have no clue how you could reach that conclusion lmao. All I said was that Hit can do both, I said nothing techniques specifically.Why you all are assuming that hiz time stop and time skip are the same technique?
it was still time skip, goku's eyes were moving during it evenBecause one, Whis says that it’s the same ability as his own, so at worst it’s a different application of the same root technique, (all still reliant on the same Time he uses) and second, because when Hit uses what is clearly Time Stop—To barrage Goku’s body with blows—He says he accomplished this by IMPROVING his TIME SKIP.
All instances of time stop were never said to be time skipWe also see that things like allowing others to move in time and the Times of Time, different things entirely, are still routed within Time Skip. He allows others to move in TS, and concentrates his stored TS time on Jiren.
...or Hitt simply can manipulate time with several different techniques devianting from itSo it’s either all Time Skip, or all connected to one larger Time Manip ability, and thus still directly conflated with Time Skip. Either way, it’s directly involved.
Not talking about you specificallyI didn't, I have no clue how you could reach that conclusion lmao. All I said was that Hit can do both, I said nothing techniques specifically.
That's not even my point. My point was nothing was retconned, Hit can just skip and stop time.
That's exactly what I was saying. Someone said hit being able to stop time was a 'retcon', I said hit can both stop and skip time, I never said anything about being how he did it specificallyI definitely agree with Omega here it’s just multiple different time manipulation techniques. He can skip through time, stop time, etc. Pretty sure blud has an attack called time cage too he just has a plethora of different time manipulation attacks, I have no idea why y’all making this difficult.
No, i said that the time skip being time stop was a retcon, the TIME SKIP specificalyThat's exactly what I was saying. Someone said hit being able to stop time was a 'retcon', I said hit can both stop and skip time, I never said anything about being how he did it specifically
I don't think they were arguing Time Skip was Time Stop specifically, unless this conversation is one giant game of telephone and the original point has been lost to time.No, i said that the time skip being time stop was a retcon, the TIME SKIP specificaly
Every time we talk about Hit's time skip people end up confused and I will never not find it funny
It do really be like King Crimson
Every time we talk about Hit's time skip people end up confused and I will never not find it funny
I definitely agree with Omega here it’s just multiple different time manipulation techniques. He can skip through time, stop time, etc. Pretty sure blud has an attack called time cage too he just has a plethora of different time manipulation attacks, I have no idea why y’all making this difficult.
Immeasurable Goku is basedit not about peope end up confused, it is about if they accept Hit time skip is literal timeskip, that also mean Goku feat is Immeasurable speed
unless this conversation is one giant game of telephone and the original point has been lost to time.
To be fair it wouldn't make sense for goku to have precogNo, it’s not in Sub. I broke down the statements a page or two ago, and pointed out that the “Prediction” they refer to in Sub is whatever he was doing in Kaioken specifically, as King Kai is referring to gamble he made alongside it to keep up with Hit.
Meaning the “ordinary” Predictions he was doing before the Kaioken that is separate—Something that makes total sense when you consider Goku’s been predicting attacks from enemy master Martial Artists since OG DB—Him predicting now and messing himself up just straight up doesn’t make sense on a tangible level. Considering that, Goku’s “Predictions,” according to King Kai, wasn’t just him predicting Hit—But rather him predicting “…a few seconds in time/reading things ahead.”
Which is why I suggested it be Limited Precog.
Not for longit is immeasurable, just a blatant outlier
If there was like a limited immeasurable speed, goku would have that, but i doesn't really work like that.Not for long
might make a matchup, it seems like an interesting fightIf it's base Goku, lad would be at a x50 disadvantage, if not more
But Super 17 can't really kill Cell, so he'd just go for one of his dura neg abilities and win lol
would it matter if its base goku? Because he still has ssj4 at his disposal, it should be all his powerIf it's base Goku, lad would be at a x50 disadvantage, if not more
But Super 17 can't really kill Cell, so he'd just go for one of his dura neg abilities and win lol
We don't know if he can access Goku's higher forms but if he can then I don't think Super 17 stands much of a chancewould it matter if its base goku? Because he still has ssj4 at his disposal, it should be all his power
hmm, i mean wouldn't it just be goku's overall power, and like what about post x10 goku kamehamehaWe don't know if he can access Goku's higher forms but if he can then I don't think Super 17 stands much of a chance
What do you guys think of this?
Like, just ignore the video's title and everything beyond the 2:03 time stamp. Is this an immeasurable speed feat for Arale?
What do you guys think of this?
Like, just ignore the video's title and everything beyond the 2:03 time stamp. Is this an immeasurable speed feat for Arale?
Doesn't he also evolve his Time Skip while fighting Goku to freeze him? I could have sworn that was how he dodged the X10 Blue Kamehameha.This would be a slam dunk if Hit didn't stop time for people in broad daylight against Jiren and during a job. That was my point, saying it's retconned is an awful arguement, because he can both skip and stop time.
So like, it's not a retcon, Hit's time skip.... skips time.
Truly the biggest retcon of all time.
What do you guys think of this?
Like, just ignore the video's title and everything beyond the 2:03 time stamp. Is this an immeasurable speed feat for Arale?
YesSeriously?