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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
- Thread starter Warren_Valion
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What you're implying,btw, is that SSG has a set Power level which cannot be surpassed. I don't think I need to tell you how wrong that is.
Because, you know, it contradicts all of DB.
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You know what's nonsense this:
Base=SSG Power xSSJ1-3, xSSG transformation (Which is SSG power), xSSB which is SSG. So according to you base SSG x SSG (SSG Power) x 50 with SSB. Lmao
While in RoF it's base=SSG x50 with SSB=regular SSJ.
Don't bring your bumbo jumbo nonsense to RoF. When it's clear and simple.
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RoF Goku > BoG Goku.
Again by your logic , SSJ3 Buu Saga Goku is > SSJ BoG Goku because SSJ3 > SSJ
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If we're resorting to insults I'm going. Have a nice day.
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What are you waffling about lol, wait till you realize you can't ping staff
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No one can make a coherent argumenrs against the factual retcon, because it's not defensable.
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Waiting for a refutation.
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His base form is above SSG. Also why are you using movie interviews for the anime? The interview you’re using is the one containing the famous SSG is a 6, Beerus a 10, and Whis a 15 line.These movie interviews are not valid for the anime. Saiyan Beyond God only exists in the Movie not anime so it’s not SSG x SSG.
- Goku made the power of SSG(god ki) his own(His regular ki is now on that level and that power is his own now not SSG’s)
this might sound like headcanon but it’s the most logical explanation. Especially since Vegeta could now sense Goku’s power.
Goku also surpasses SSG in base. He isn’t only equal to it.
Goku base >> SSJ Goku BoG >= SSG
Eden_Warlock99
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I do not think you understood the argument
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your arguments are just bad, we have went over this so many times
Nullflowerblush
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If anybody is curious, the references made to Toriyama are based on statements that only apply to the film version.
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My arguments are "bad". Yet, still no coherent response.
Nullflowerblush
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if we're on the topic of coherency, your english could use a little work. that is none of my business, though.
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False, BoG and RoF are based on the movie. It's just a retelling with minor differences even Goku profile uses RoF movie guides and staement.
Serlock_Holmes
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Just don't reply to the troll.
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Adress my arguments.
Fezzih_007
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Not really, Goku absorbed the Power of SSG in his base.
But aftwerwords, he can transform into SSG again without any problem.
You failing to answer why would't he, is just a transformation.
Nullflowerblush
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Whataboutism.
If Goku's profile references film-original information, then that information is to be removed from his profile. Expect a CRT in the near future.
And, yes, the anime stories are based on the films, but they are NOT the films. Is that clear yet? Like, the 2-C feat is not even present in the film version of Battle of Gods, and Piccolo does not die in the film version of Resurrection 'F'; Gotenks and Ginyu do not appear, either, and in the film, the Z-Fighters band together to alert Goku, whereas Gohan alerts Goku solo in the anime.
Nullflowerblush
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Is English your first language?
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Because that means he has two SSG Goku. Logic alone says that can't be the case and Akira confirms this "SSG isn't needed, because he has the power in base" for the billionth time. Akira is saying "Goku CAN'T go SSG, because he already has it". Otherwise he would have said "Goku can use SSG power to increase his SSG power". The complete opposite.
Serlock_Holmes
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Is this from the movie? Toriyama's quote?
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Yes, and BoG and RoF are based on the movies. It's a retelling of it.
Fezzih_007
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If your argument is based on a Movie only statement, which is not canon to the anime, your argument really falls apart.
Serlock_Holmes
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Then for all intents and purposes the statement doesn't exist in either manga or anime continuity. It's only for Movie's version of the events where Beerus is much weaker.
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No, theanime BoG&RoF are based on the movies. Why else you think SSG only appeared at the last arc? Because it was based on Alira odea no SSG anymore.If your argument is based on a Movie only statement, which is not canon to the anime, your argument really falls apart.
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After Goku absorbs the power of SSJG into base, the others can literally sense him again. He’s also stated to have gained the power of SSJG into his base form, not god ki itself. That’s why he can be sensed in his base form by the others and why in RoF SSB is assumed to be SSG initially.
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Yes, he doesn't have God Ki in base, but how does that refute this fact below?
RoF base=SSG x50=SSB/regular SSJ.
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I cannot emphasize hard enough how arguments like this only happen in Ohio fr
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I have no idea what you’re arguing, but RoF Base Goku is way stronger than SSG BoG Goku.
RoF Base > Base Goku (Punching away 2nd condensed energy ball) > SSJ Goku (gaining the power of SSG into SSJ) < SSJG Goku
Nullflowerblush
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As Beerus asserts, the power of Super Saiyan God merged with Goku. Why is "Goku absorbed Super Saiyan God" the idea?
Serlock_Holmes
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Rof base= SSG BOG Goku's strenght
Fezzih_007
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So? We still don't mix movie Canon to the anime, don't matter If the arcs are based on movies.
This statement you taking only apply to the movies, not the anime.
What?
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Nullflowerblush
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THAT'S WHY THE DRAGON BALL COMMUNITY IS #1Only in the DBS thread
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Nullflowerblush
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y'know, that whole "saiyan tails stop growing back after they surpass their great ape form" thing always confused me. how does the body gauge when it has surpassed the great ape? like, great ape now, great ape from ten years ago?
