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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

If your argument is based on a Movie only statement, which is not canon to the anime, your argument really falls apart.
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No, theanime BoG&RoF are based on the movies. Why else you think SSG only appeared at the last arc? Because it was based on Alira odea no SSG anymore.
 
Waiting for a refutation.
After Goku absorbs the power of SSJG into base, the others can literally sense him again. He’s also stated to have gained the power of SSJG into his base form, not god ki itself. That’s why he can be sensed in his base form by the others and why in RoF SSB is assumed to be SSG initially.
 
After Goku absorbs the power of SSJG into base, the others can literally sense him again. He’s also stated to have gained the power of SSJG into his base form, not god ki itself. That’s why he can be sensed in his base form by the others and why in RoF SSB is assumed to be SSG initially.
Yes, he doesn't have God Ki in base, but how does that refute this fact below?

RoF base=SSG x50=SSB/regular SSJ.
 
Yes, he doesn't have God Ki in base, but how does that refute this fact below?

RoF base=SSG x50=SSB/regular SSJ.
I have no idea what you’re arguing, but RoF Base Goku is way stronger than SSG BoG Goku.

RoF Base > Base Goku (Punching away 2nd condensed energy ball) > SSJ Goku (gaining the power of SSG into SSJ) < SSJG Goku
 
y'know, that whole "saiyan tails stop growing back after they surpass their great ape form" thing always confused me. how does the body gauge when it has surpassed the great ape? like, great ape now, great ape from ten years ago?
 
Guys, if goku surpassed his namek saga super saiyan form in base in later arcs, then why does he still have to go super saiyan? Seems like a retcon to me.
Strawman. SSJ is a multiplier on his base. While SSG power is an added boost. Two different things.
 
Also in the anime, Base Frieza is able to beat Base Dyspo while Goku needed Super Saiyan God to fight him. Compare that to the RoF arc where Base Goku was fighting Final Form Frieza.

Again proving>RoF base=SSG, but in ToP SSG Goku=RoF base Goku. It's a retcon. Cope
 
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y'know, that whole "saiyan tails stop growing back after they surpass their great ape form" thing always confused me. how does the body gauge when it has surpassed the great ape? like, great ape now, great ape from ten years ago?
Should we sit here and pretend toriyama didn't just think of something dumb to never concern himself with them? It would make sense though for them to lose their tails when they get SSJ form.
 
y'know, that whole "saiyan tails stop growing back after they surpass their great ape form" thing always confused me. how does the body gauge when it has surpassed the great ape? like, great ape now, great ape from ten years ago?
maybe it's when they are unlocking their potential through other manners, since Oozaru is considered a part of the Saiyans potential. Goku got it from the Choushinsui, Gohan got it from Namek's Saichoro, and Vegeta probably got it from zenkais
 
Also in the anime, Base Frieza is able to beat Base Dyspo while Goku needed Super Saiyan God to fight him. Compare that to the RoF arc where Base Goku was fighting Final Form Frieza.
Now, compare that to when Final Form Frieza was beating Kaio-ken x20 Goku.
 
y'know, that whole "saiyan tails stop growing back after they surpass their great ape form" thing always confused me. how does the body gauge when it has surpassed the great ape? like, great ape now, great ape from ten years ago?
I assume it was always meant to be intended the actual forms they have access to. There’s no need for a crappy were-ape form (a situational 10x amp) when you got the Golden Glow (an easily accessible 50x amp).
 
To think that Frieza before a year of training in Hell and Frieza after a year of training in Hell are even remotely similar in power is a special kind of ignorance and stupidity, rivalled only by unique characters on the internet that believe Grade 4 Super Saiyan is stronger then Grade 1, and that "Kaio-ken" and "Kaio-ken x2" are separate multipliers.
 
She actually did one, and got closed.
I did say It was against the rules.

 
That Veronica character I think is actually just 3 racoons in a trench coat with an internet connection. And I mean that in the best way possible
Well, I also been having these weird thoughts lately too. Not sure if they for real or not.
Her arguments don't make any sense to me.
 
She actually did one, and got closed.
I did say It was against the rules.

LMAOOOOOOO
 
You know, a thought occurs to me. According to Vegeta, he saw SSJ3 in the Afterlife. Which makes sense when you consider the Toei Afterlife, but not the modified system we see paraded around in DBS. Especially when you consider Piccolo directly references the Toei Hell and even says Vegeta is gonna go there.

It’s just an interesting tidbit I thought I’d bring up.
 
You know, a thought occurs to me. According to Vegeta, he saw SSJ3 in the Afterlife. Which makes sense when you consider the Toei Afterlife, but not the modified system we see paraded around in DBS. Especially when you consider Piccolo directly references the Toei Hell and even says Vegeta is gonna go there.

It’s just an interesting tidbit I thought I’d bring up.
Yes, he even watched the Fusion Dance from the Afterlife (just because he couldn't do it perfectly on a whim years later in Broly doesn't mean he hasn't seen it)
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You know, a thought occurs to me. According to Vegeta, he saw SSJ3 in the Afterlife. Which makes sense when you consider the Toei Afterlife, but not the modified system we see paraded around in DBS. Especially when you consider Piccolo directly references the Toei Hell and even says Vegeta is gonna go there.
King Yemma held onto his spirit before its cleansing and restored his body, knowing that he'd be needed against Majin Buu. And, the opening of Ep.19 of Super reveals multiple different "terrains"/"areas" of Earth's Hell, including the area Frieza had been trapped in, underneath a body of water, implying different functions for different spirits, like how Yemma opted to relocate Dabura to Heaven out of spite. For Frieza, his punishment is eternal torture; for Vegeta, his punishment is being reincarnated; for Dr. Mashirito, his punishment is apparently losing his body but not being cleansed and reincarnated.
 
Calm down lol
You're right, that was a li'l overboard.
Although, I did admit it was none of my business.
King Yemma held onto his spirit before its cleansing and restored his body, knowing that he'd be needed against Majin Buu. And, the opening of Ep.19 of Super reveals multiple different "terrains"/"areas" of Earth's Hell, including the area Frieza had been trapped in, underneath a body of water, implying different functions for different spirits, like how Yemma opted to relocate Dabura to Heaven out of spite. For Frieza, his punishment is eternal torture; for Vegeta, his punishment is being reincarnated; for Dr. Mashirito, his punishment is apparently losing his body but not being cleansed and reincarnated.
Hey, continuing this train of thought, in-universe, Frieza refers to Earth's Hell as, aptly, "Earth's hell", which strongly suggests the existence of individual planetary Hells; in the manga, Sorbet and Shisami ended up there, too.

If that is the precedent, than the Ginyu Force appearing in Hell with Frieza and Cell in the TV anime contradicts the lore established by Super, seeing as how the Ginyu Force happened to all be killed on Planet Namek, rather than on Earth.
 
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