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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
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Cuz it's wrong.
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Base Goku at the end of BoG outgrew his previous SSG self in strength.
It's not Base > SSG. It's Base End of BoG Goku being > Beginning/Middle of BoG SSG Goku
It's called growing stronger,you know.
By your logic Goku at the beginning of the DBS manga should've not be able to outgrow his SSJ3 Buu Saga self while he clearly did. Don't you realize how ridiculous that is? Your argument completely contradicts the whole nature of DB.
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Watch Episode 13. Every character notes how they can Sense Goku's Ki, Goku and Beerus notes how he didn't get any weaker. He absorbed SSG, and it turned into his base, mortal power, not godly power. He only got god ki when he started his training with Whis
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I’m 100% sure this guy is feigning ignorance.
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Yes, in BoG he did surpass SSG, but it got retconned in RoF and U6 Arc and finalized in the ToP arc.
It doesn't matter. My point is base Goku isn't anywhere close. As SSG returned and U6 shows regular SSJ1-3. Which contraficts RoF. Also you are contradictimg yourself.
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what’s blud doing rn
this thread is really vsb’s version of Ohio fr you never see this happening in the opm thread
this thread is really vsb’s version of Ohio fr you never see this happening in the opm thread
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I know in RoF Goku has regular Ki with the power of SSG. It's only when he goes SSB when he multiplies SSG power by x50 not his regular SSJ form.
Serlock_Holmes
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No they are saying Goku in base is stronger than Goku in SSG.
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That was the case in RoF, but in U6 arc it got retconned. Why else do you think, he didn't go regular SSJ? Because it doesn't multiply has base God power by x50 only SSB does.
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Super Saiyan God Goku from the BoG arc got surpassed in sheer strength by Base Goku in RoF.
Base Goku does not have God Ki, Goku's base form IS NOT SSG.
They are not the same thing.
Base Goku does not have God Ki, Goku's base form IS NOT SSG.
They are not the same thing.
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Base Goku has the power of SSG. So yeah it's the SSG and when he goes SSJ, it's SSB. Because he is multiiplying his base not a SSG transformation. That he doesn't have logically and stated by Akira.
Serlock_Holmes
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Yeah go ask a mod about it. This matter is closed.
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Goku using Super Saiyan God in the Universal Survival Saga is NOT proof that his surpassing his Super Saiyan God form during the Battle of Gods Saga is retconned.
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No one can refute the obvious retcon.
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Goku in BoG absorbed the strength of his SSG form in his base/SSJ.
he absorbed the power he had at that moment, not the form itself. is that so hard to understand?
Yeah, Goku fell out of SSG in BoG because he gained that level of strength in his SSJ form. Nothing contradictory unless you take it out of context like you're doing here.
he absorbed the power he had at that moment, not the form itself. is that so hard to understand?
Yeah, Goku fell out of SSG in BoG because he gained that level of strength in his SSJ form. Nothing contradictory unless you take it out of context like you're doing here.
Fezzih_007
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Did you even know what a retcon is?
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It does, even U6 arc shows it got retconned.
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The only character in the DBS anime who has a regular SSJ form mixed with God Ki is Goku Black.
Super Saiyan Blue,AKA Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan, is different.
Super Saiyan Blue,AKA Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan, is different.
Nullflowerblush
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How exactly?
Nullflowerblush
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Actually, don't reply to that. I don't care anymore.
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Yes.
The SSG transfornation comes with the SSG power. Ypu can't say>base absorbs SSG ppwer and SSG transformation multiplies that power. Don't you see SSG x SSG power doesn't make sense?!
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U literally started it though saying she didn’t have a good argument.
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If you want to fo with that it's oke. The manga has the same basis.
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Manga SSR is different from the anime's, that's common knowledge.
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The manga has regular base and SBG base. So regular base is far inferior to SBG base.
Regukar base/SSJ1-3
SBG base=SSG/SSB=SSJ of that base.
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Yes, notice it's SSR and not regular SSJ, because regular SSJ isn't GoD tier.
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Beerus stated Goku made the power his own so it’s just regular ki now instead of god ki from SSG.
Also his base actually surpassed SSG. (Vegeta stated he surpassed SSG).
Base Goku End of BOG >> SSJ Goku >= SSG Goku
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He became as strong as his Super Saiyan God self, just like BoG SSJ Goku in the DBS manga became as strong as his SSJ3 Buu Saga self.
Power growth. What's so shocking about it?
Fezzih_007
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Which Goku absorbed, yeah.
You can, yeah.
He absorbed the SSG in his base during BoG, but can transform normally afterwords in SSG, don't see the problem here.
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I guess BoG Manga Goku can't transform into a Super Saiyan 3 anymore by his logic.
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He didn't. He could only when he absorbed SSG. Beerus stated "The SSG power is burning like a flame inside you".
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If he absorbed the form like you claim, how come he couldn't use it afterwards?
Or maybe it's just because he became stronger,no? Shocking,I know.
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Except Alira said "There is no need of SSG, because Goku base absorbed it" So how does Goku have two SSG powers? Did he magically spawn it?
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Again the transformation comes with the power. Which is a fact. The reason he couldn't transform. Is because he already has the power and can't magically multiply SSG again to make SSG power stronger. He needed SSB to do that.
