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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100



  • Goku vs Beerus starts and Whis thinks he has time to have a lunch
  • Beerus considers SSJ as a slight power boost. Whis gives up on eating
  • For SSJ2, he notes it's quite a skill and has a monologue about how powerful he became. Whis still doesn't think he can eat
  • For SSJ3, he acknowledges it's power and says it is much more powerful than SSJ and SSJ2. Whis starts eating
do we have more statements implying ssj3 power boost in relation to ssj2 is bigger or comparable than the ssj2 power boost in relation to SSJ? If we do, we can give ssj3 a 20 times multiplier on top of ssj2 as a lowball or we could try with only this, it seems very consistent
 
ChronoULT said:


  • Goku vs Beerus starts and Whis thinks he has time to have a lunch
  • Beerus considers SSJ as a slight power boost. Whis gives up on eating
  • For SSJ2, he notes it's quite a skill and has a monologue about how powerful he became. Whis still doesn't think he can eat
  • For SSJ3, he acknowledges it's power and says it is much more powerful than SSJ and SSJ2. Whis starts eating
do we have more statements implying ssj3 power boost in relation to ssj2 is bigger or comparable than the ssj2 power boost in relation to SSJ? If we do, we can give ssj3 a 20 times multiplier on top of ssj2 as a lowball or we could try with only this, it seems very consistent
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50x on top of ssj2 might also work
 
@Damage3245 My post above should be enough evidence Near End ToP base Goku~Merged Zamasu or SSB, if you don't agree with it. Becauae later on base Goku fought alone Anrroid 17 confirming the insane power boost. Thus ToP SSJ Goku>merged Zamasu.
 
If Frieza Saga Goku is considered the baseline Power Level requirement to obtain Super Saiyan, then Future Gohan would be Star level for training with Super Saiyan Future Trunks in his base form.
Trunks Saga Goku/Future Goku > Future Gohan > Trunks The Story SSJ Future Trunks > Frieza Saga SSJ Goku > 244.73626 Quettatons
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We still treat it as an alternative timeline, no? Basically if Bardock's world doesn't follow these rules, why would Trunks' world do so?
Plus, Chilled being on-par with 100% Frieza would contradict the latter being like a super-mutant, I think
 
Adem_Warlock69 said:
Connected in what way? Both are currently treated as alternative timelines from the main timeline
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Connected, as in Future Trunks travelling into the past created the main timeline.
Connected, as in they are linked through the Time Machine by 17 years.

On this note, how the hell are the mainline and the TV anime continuity being parallel worlds consistent at all with how time travel is portrayed in-universe? Parallel worlds are explicitly created when Time Machines are used to alter the past. However, there are not nearly enough instances of time travel to justify the TV anime and all of the films.
 
Nullflowerblush said:
What happens now? Is Trunks The Story in canon limbo?
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I’ve always considered it as History of Trunks is the new backstory for DBS Anime Trunks and Trunks the Story is the maintained backstory Trunks has in the DBS Manga.

Essentially:

History of Trunks -> DBS Anime Trunks

Trunks the Story -> DBS Manga Trunks
 
That means Namek Full Power Frieza is 610 Yottatons. Makes sense that he coudn't planet bust at 305 Yottatond with top of thay holding back.
 
Base Goku=SSG got retconned in U6 arc and finalized in ToP arc.

It's like this:
BoG: Base Goku>SSG
RoF SSB=SSJx50>base>SSG
U6 Retcons with regular SSJ1-3 thus SSB>SSG>SSJ1-3
ToP: Finalizes the retcon by finally utilazing SSG form and power. Thus SSB>SSG (shown)>SSJ1-3>base

As Akira said "SSG is gone, because Goku has the power base, so he doesn't need to transform anymore".


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Unless you think base Goku=SSG and SSG transformation with the power SSG x base SSG. Which makes no sense, its the anime following the manga, after RoF. Also you have to think that BoG Piccolo is above BoG SSG Goku. Which makes no sense.

Thus BoG SSG>>>>>U6 besides Hit, since he scales above SSB. U6 Arc base and SSJ1-3 should be slightly above their Buu Saga strenght.

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Well, I am afraid that it is not my area, and you need to create a separate content revision thread to be evaluated by our staff.

Also, notifications can only be sent by staff members.
 
It being against the rules. Doesn't make it right and it clearly got retconned. You have to be a buffoon, if you think Goku was multiplying his base which is SSG with a transformation called SSG. So SSG x SSG, that does make no sense and Akira confirmed this by stating "SSG isn't needed, because he has the power in base"
 
Akira>SSG tranformation isn't needed, because base Goku has that power.

SSG reappears: What logically follows, base Goku power got moved back to the SSG transformation.

What the clown above wants you to think: Goku base god power multiplied it with the power of SSG.

Clown>Goku has two SSG powers

Akira>Goku only has one which he absorbed

Clpwn>Goku magically spawned another SSG power and multiplied his base SSG power with it.

Akira> O-0?
 
Goku does not have SSG in base. This Is the 1828182828th time we repeat this and we seriously got tired of this bs.


In BoG he absorbed the Strength of his initial SSG form and he managed to surpass it. He does not have the form in base and no, RoF Movie is not canon no matter how you wanna put it.

Also if you call me clown one more time we're going to RVR. If you can't have a civil discussion it's better if you drop off site.
 
Ottavio_Merluzzo said:
Goku does not have SSG in base. This Is the 1828182828th time we repeat this and we seriously got tired of this bs.


In BoG he absorbed the Strength of his initial SSG form and he managed to surpass it. He does not have the form in base and no, RoF Movie is not canon no matter how you wanna put it.

Also if you call me clown one more time we're going to RVR. If you can't have a civil discussion it's better if you drop off site.
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Where does the strenght come from? It comes from the SSG transformation. You really think, he absorbed the strenght of it and than made SSG a seperate transformation with the power of SSG and multiplies his base SSG power with the transformation. Thus you get SSG x SSG no matter what.
 
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