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Then why do you consistenly not adress and simplyfies my argument?I’m not ignoring anything lol
Thats explained here 0:42 Beerus saw Goku as unworthy of his time because his god power ran out but hes asking goku how? Because his red aura has dissipated and he was now a regular super saiyan Beerus assumed Goku got weaker until he got punched twice and asked Goku what was going on
and you still ignored the point were i addressed this, "if beerus still didn't thought of goku as worth his time even after receiving an attack from him, then how could goku still be at exactly ssjg level when an attack from him did not impressed or interested beerus at all?" You say you don't ignore but you constantly do, simplyfiyng the argument to ridiculous degrees
And yet his showings show otherwise, plus you seem to keep ignoring the part were i say "not a noticeable drop" when refering to how much weaker goku is in comparison, it was too small for him to notice, and yet you keep saying you don't ignore stuffGoku tells us he didn’t even notice his god power was gone because he didn’t feel a difference in power at 0:48 Goku tells us this there was no drop in power
and if goku was always as strong why didn't he comented anything and still saw goku as not worthy after the first punch?Goku still thought he was in SSJG too Beerus saw it as a fluke the first time, but with Goku’s second punch he actually questioned Goku.
he was at the time of the second punch, again, you seem to be ignoring his AD for some reasonIf Goku wasn‘t SSJG level Beerus wouldn’t have asked Goku
how could it be headcanon when i am using purely scenes from the fight itself and not any speculation?, there is no need for a statement if we are visually shown that he is not quite there by the time of the immediate detransformation, but then it’s revealed he kept his god power its not stated there’s a minuscule drop in power or whatever head canon you’re spouting
what part of "not noticeable" you don't get?characters can feel even small changes in their power Goku would notice a drop in his power and thats why he commented that he didn’t feel a decrease
and he would have changed his mind immediatly after the first punch hit him, since he would have saw that goku was still in ssjg levela of power“yeah, while he easily dodged the majority of them, and even the one that hit wasn't impressive enough for beerus to consider goku worth of his time, only after the second one he started to question how could goku still keep up, tell me, if goku was indeed just as strong as before, how come beerus shruged off his punch?” Uh, no? Beerus explains why he thought Goku wasn’t worth his time at 0:42 he lost the aura of Super Saiyan God
now you are the one saying headcanonBeerus finally questioned what was going on after the second punch because he thought the first one was a fluke.
and still didn't thought that the power behind it was worth his time....why you keep ignoring the main part of the argument?Also, Beerus literally got sent flying from Goku’s punch I have no idea what you’re entailing.
yes it does when beerus was extremely more casual and not in guard, completely dismotivated, and still dodged most of them extremely casualy, but you again, ignored the main point of the argument and simplified it to "goku dodged" when that is not at all the full argument or the full scope of the main pointJust because Goku missed a couple punches doesn’t mean there was some head canon minuscule drop in power you’re suggesting.
pushed to new merely means that he himself has grow, it doesn't mean that he is exactly as strong as when he was ssjg“the show clearly shows in the scene that goku was not quite there yet, his body was said to have learned from the form and was pushed to new heights, that is all that is said, which is true by what i am saying, he just got up to the level really fast thanks to his AD” The scene just shows us that Goku didn’t lose his previous power and if his body was pushed to new heights it means he‘s getting even stronger at that point which is what I agree with
Though this doesn’t mean Goku had a miniscule drop in power this just means SSJ Goku getting stronger in combat>SSJ Goku initial>=SSJG Goku that doesn’t mean Initial SSJ Goku<SSJG Goku
the scene itself supports it with how beerus acted towards his attacks even after feeling them and the statements do not contradict this notion at all, but once again, i am sure you will find a way to simplify them...oh wellI know you’re saying he’s slightly weaker everything in the show and the statements say otherwise.
He isn’t slightly weaker if anything the opposite. Also if for some reason you think SSJ Goku missing his punches means he’s slightly weaker. 35:00 this is the final SSJG attacks before he turns into SSJ again Goku literally misses all his punches and then Beerus grabs his punches after he misses a couple and Goku knees him in the face.
yeah, because he is in the middle of detransforming, tell me, did you watched the entire fight prior? Because i gotta say, doesn't seem like you do when you aee using one scene from the end of the section, when the entire fight prior they were pretty even, but the moment goku started to detransform he did worst, i wonder why huh?
again, simplifying the argument to the extreme, it makes me wonder if you understand what words such as "casual" meansSo you can’t use that “b-but Beerus dodged his attacks so he got weaker!” excuse
and you completely ignored the message and repeated yourself again, why did i expected any less from you“says the one ignoring key words and points of my messages.......really, you somehow simplyfied my point so much to be just "he dodged, so weaker" and didn't even tried to argue the "beerus was completely unimpressed by the blow dealt by goku" point, and yet i am the one ignoring somehow even tho i am litterally quoting every response to make sure i am covering every point, i really don't get what you are saying here” I’m not ignoring “key words” Goku didn’t get some miniscule drop in power like you’re suggesting, and the show says otherwise.
Why didn't he got that realization aftet the first punch? If goku truly was as strong he would have noticed immediatly, unless you sre saying that beerus is a moron that can't feel how strong the blows he is receiving are that isEven though, it would change nothing it’s inaccurate and we don’t accept it. I already explained this it’s not Beerus was unimpressed by Goku’s attack he just thought Goku’s God Power had expired, and he realized something was off after getting punched the second time where we literally get our explanation.
stop simplyifiyng the argument, the argument is not simply that he dodged, is that he casually did it with extreme ease“they also exchanged energy beams, had a whole fist to fist exchange, heck the whole shockwave scene was entirely based on goku matching beerus' punches, honestly have you even watched the fight?” I don’t see how this changes, but yeah I’ve watched the fight. Beerus dodging a couple punches doesn’t change anything
then why did he still said that goku wasn't worth after he got hit the first time?and Beerus wasn’t unimpressed by Goku’s attacks, he was impressed that’s why he questioned Goku in SSJ state.
Then why do you have the need to overly simplify the arguments over and over again while repeating the same phrase over and over?”you are the one ignoring the entire situation, and using statements that are true even with the points is am saying” I didn’t ignore a single word you said I addressed all of it and told you why was it wrong.
it is implied as i have explainedGoku becoming a minuscule amount weaker is never implied or stated.
again, ignoring the "not noticeable" part of my argumentGoku explains that he didn’t even realize he was gone from his god power
His power did change, this literally goes against your whole argumentand his power didn’t change this literally goes against your whole argument.