Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

[Nullflowerblush]

Could be argued that 400 tons thing was an outlier

Apologies, the metric was actually 4,000 tons.
Anyhow.

• Even during the Attack of the Saiyans, weighted clothing of 200 lbs was considered heavy enough to wear around as training.
• Namek Saga Goku needed to shred his body over and over again (to the point he surpassed normal Saiyan capabilities) to handle 6 tons.
  • Applying the Super Saiyan multiplier yields 300 tons
• Android Saga Vegeta needed to shred his body over and over again to handle 18 tons.
  • Applying the Super Saiyan multiplier yields 900 tons
• Buu Saga Goku, who surpassed Android Saga SSJs, could easily handle 8 tons (800 tons, if Heaven exerting 100g is to be believed)
  • 40 tons (4,000 tons) as a Super Saiyan

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

Apologies, the metric was actually 4,000 tons.
Anyhow.

• Even during the Attack of the Saiyans, weighted clothing of 200 lbs was considered heavy enough to wear around as training.
• Namek Saga Goku needed to shred his body over and over again (to the point he surpassed normal Saiyan capabilities) to handle 6 tons.
  • Applying the Super Saiyan multiplier yields 300 tons
• Android Saga Vegeta needed to shred his body over and over again to handle 18 tons.
  • Applying the Super Saiyan multiplier yields 900 tons
• Buu Saga Goku, who surpassed Android Saga SSJs, could easily handle 8 tons (800 tons, if Heaven exerting 100gis to be believed)
  • 40 tons (4,000 tons) as a Super Saiyan

Wearing =/= Lifting someone could lift 200 pounds but not be able to wear 150 pounds of clothing on them

 

[TimmyTurnero]

Damn

 

[TimmyTurnero]

Wearing =/= Lifting someone could lift 200 pounds but not be able to wear 150 pounds of clothing on them

This is just… wrong. Coming from someone who lift weights. In no world is krillin exerting severeal tons of force as a kid and then struggle to lift 200 pounds and claim its impossible to move with them on.
I’d even argue that wearing weight is easier than lifting.

 

[TimmyTurnero]

Matter of fact krillin lifted 40 pounds and called it heavy thats the weigh of a dumbbell

 

[Nullflowerblush]

If you were wearing weighted clothing, would the weight not be distributed across your entire body?
When you are lifting, you are carrying the weight with your arms, no?

 

[TimmyTurnero]

Anyone who actually works out would know that wearing weights isnt as hard as lifting

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

This is just… wrong. Coming from someone who lift weights. In no world is krillin exerting severeal tons of force as a kid and then struggle to lift 200 pounds and claim its impossible to move with them on.
I’d even argue that wearing weight is easier than lifting.

If someone wore 200 pounds worth of weights on their body irl they would not be able to move as easily and their athleticism would be reduced a lot but if its hard for you to wear 200 pounds it wouldn’t mean you couldnt deadlift like 600 pounds or something

Matter of fact krillin lifted 40 pounds and called it heavy thats the weigh of a dumbbell

I would think he was referring to having to wear it because if he truly thought just holding 40 pounds was heavy bros not even as strong as people in our world

If you were wearing weighted clothing, would the weight not be distributed across your entire body?
When you are lifting, you are carrying the weight with your arms, no?

It would make moving a lot more difficult

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

Anyone who actually works out would know that wearing weights isnt as hard as lifting

I’m just a blasian man who hoops I don’t be weight lifting like that but if people could still run fast and move relatively easily with 200 pounds weights then Ion know I doubt someone could run a 5 or 6 second 40 yard dash with 200 pounds on them though

 

[speedster352]

Even lowballed using Ssj2 and ssj3 multipliers can yield amazing results. Is their a confirmed multiplier for SSJG or SSJB?

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Beast Gohan still solo

 

[SirAlex09]

Input pls for this https://vsbattles.com/threads/dbs-crt.154876/

 

[VinnyXD]

Shouldn't Goku have resistance to law manipulation for punching Bojack?

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

Shouldn't Goku have resistance to law manipulation for punching Bojack?

What?

 

[VinnyXD]

In the movie Bojack Unbound. Goku breaks/ teleports out of otherworld to hit Bojack and save Gohan.

All while dead and without a wish

 

[Gohanblanco217]

We give law manip for punching people now....

 

[VinnyXD]

We give law manip for punching people now....

More like for going into the living world while dead

 

[Omegabronic]

Shouldn't Goku have resistance to law manipulation for punching Bojack?

This goku doesn't even have a profile dude

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

This goku doesn't even have a profile dude

Bojack Unbound is canon. Although Toei Goku wouldn't get law manipulation for that feat

 

[TimmyTurnero]

Why would that even be law manipulation

 

[VinnyXD]

This goku doesn't even have a profile dude

It falls under Toei/GT

 

[VinnyXD]

Bojack Unbound is canon. Although Toei Goku wouldn't get law manipulation for that feat

Resistance

 

[TimmyTurnero]

Where does law manipulation come from?

 

[VinnyXD]

Where does law manipulation come from?

The dead aren't allowed to travel to the living world. It's why Goku needed to be wish back. What else could it be?

 

[StekFence]

Also worth remembering that before that fight, Krillin humiliated Base Gohan. Albeit Gohan did hold back at first, hard to say if he went full power after Krillin calls him out on it or not. Assuming he did, SS1 Gohan = SS1 Goku so Base Gohan = Base Goku logically. Krillin beating Gohan is even what makes Goku want to fight him, meaning Goku viewed him as a good opponent.

SS1 Goku = SS1 Gohan > Krillin > Base Goku = Base Gohan = 2-C

So cyborg wasp solos most super arcs then

 

[TimmyTurnero]

The dead aren't allowed to travel to the living world. It's why Goku needed to be wish back. What else could it be?

Is this ever expanded on? Is this stated to be a fundamental law of the universe? For all we know they aren’t allowed to travel just due to basic principles and considering not everyone has the ability to travel between dimensions then no one would travel anyways. Goku has inter dimensional travel so I don’t see what this proves. If Toei Goku could do this why doesn’t he do it in the Buy saga when he’s running out of time? The destruction of the Earth was on the line.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Cell also has Interdimensional Range,
I guess it's PIS

 

[Omegabronic]

Bojack Unbound is canon. Although Toei Goku wouldn't get law manipulation for that feat

no it isn't, not accepted here at least

 

[TimmyTurnero]

Cell also has Interdimensional Range,
I guess it's PIS

Idk what it is. It’s definitely not Goku fighting some none existent law

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

no it isn't, not accepted here at least

Yes it is. That and the linked feat on his profile is a DBGT calc. Its in the Toei continuity

 

[Omegabronic]

Yes it is. That and the linked feat on his profile is a DBGT calc. Its in the Toei continuity

No it isn't, bojack is not one of the 4 accepted as canon movies, look at the verse page dude

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

No it isn't, bojack is not one of the 4 accepted as canon movies, look at the verse page dude

Did it not dawn on you that that's outdated? Bojack is considered part of the Toei continuity. That's why the DBGT calc is even on that page

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Did it not dawn on you that that's outdated? Bojack is considered part of the Toei continuity. That's why the DBGT calc is even on that page

I don't think there was a CRT that made Bojack part of the Toei Canon, Bojack scaling to Toei Feats is something we do to all Movie Characters

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

I don't think there was a CRT that made Bojack part of the Toei Canon, Bojack scaling to Toei Feats is something we do to all Movie Characters

There are no movie-only characters that scale to the DBGT calc, only the Other World Saga Base Goku feat which happens in the Toei continuity

 

[CryoTheMayo]

So cyborg wasp solos most super arcs then

Unironically yes.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

There are no movie-only characters that scale to the DBGT calc, only the Other World Saga Base Goku feat which happens in the Toei continuity

What DBGT calc is on Bojack's profile?

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

What DBGT calc is on Bojack's profile?

DBGT speeds

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

DBGT speeds

vsbattles.fandom.com

That's a calc for the Namek Saga Toei Characters

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

That's a calc for the Namek Saga Toei Characters

It uses stuff from DBGT because its part of that same continuity

Also, Fusion Reborn, which VSBW considers canon, features Bojack. Next

 

[Fezzih_007]

Unironically yes.

Yeah no, complety outlier lol.